Adagio - Nocturno

Hello

I wanted to write a second part for the Aria, which I extended at the end and made some adjustments... Here: 

Hey Luis @Luis Hernández,

The lydian opening is interesting for me. My favourite section is section C. It's interesting that you have already hinted the key in b.11. This section is so lovely with the addition (or reintroduction) of the harp featured in the first part of the aria. Overall this part is lovely.

I would like to ask, are there some connections between this part and the last one in G minor one!

Thx for sharing!

Henry

@Henry Ng Tsz Kiu

At first, the initial motif resembled some of the motifs in the other piece.
But the general treatment of this one, especially the harmonic changes, give me to understand that it does not form a unit with the other one.

And this is what I wanted to ask in the forum,... , I think that one of the most complicated things to compose both in small scale and large scale, is the structure and the Form.

5 minutes ago, Luis Hernández said:

At first, the initial motif resembled some of the motifs in the other piece.
But the general treatment of this one, especially the harmonic changes, give me to understand that it does not form a unit with the other one.

And this is what I wanted to ask in the forum,... , I think that one of the most complicated things to compose both in small scale and large scale, is the structure and the Form.

I always think the hardest thing for a piece to achieve is coherence... You can write many beautiful passages in a piece but have them never linked properly and reasonably.... But as a set these two pieces are complementary, as the first one is more tragic and this one slightly more optimistic, in my opinion.

@Henry Ng Tsz Kiu

thanks, you’re right.

I’ll try to write a third part with material from the other two.

I agree that most difficult aspect of composing is "coherence" bring the listener along ... which requires the ability to connect multiple aspects of the composition: thematic material, harmonic movement, and rhythmic motifs; as well as thoughtful transitions.  If you are gifted enough to write great thematic material - you still have to weave it into a beautiful/meaningful tapestry. 

Mark

On 8/26/2023 at 7:35 PM, MJFOBOE said:

I agree that most difficult aspect of composing is "coherence" bring the listener along ... which requires the ability to connect multiple aspects of the composition: thematic material, harmonic movement, and rhythmic motifs; as well as thoughtful transitions.  If you are gifted enough to write great thematic material - you still have to weave it into a beautiful/meaningful tapestry. 

Mark

 

You are absolutely right.
And I think this issue is one of the most difficult things to achieve. Besides, many times the amateur composer is in a hurry to finish the compositions and even to join several unrelated or incoherent parts. The latter is not impossible or wrong but it needs proper transitions. I learned from a great teacher that the more different two sections are, the more elaborate (and longer) the transition between them should be.
I am at that point of trying to be patient in writing music. But of course, since it is not my main occupation in life, I also fall into that hurry.

 

8 hours ago, Luis Hernández said:

You are absolutely right.
And I think this issue is one of the most difficult things to achieve. Besides, many times the amateur composer is in a hurry to finish the compositions and even to join several unrelated or incoherent parts. The latter is not impossible or wrong but it needs proper transitions. I learned from a great teacher that the more different two sections are, the more elaborate (and longer) the transition between them should be.
I am at that point of trying to be patient in writing music. But of course, since it is not my main occupation in life, I also fall into that hurry.

Luis,

I recently reviewed some of my older works that I considered finished; however, I now know they are not really complete.  They suffer from all the points I shared above ... a string of lovely thematic passages does not suffice at all.

Mark