November 6, 20232 yr So... I basically wrote a fugue without any sounds. The subject is made out of rests: https://youtu.be/Djw8LrC99c8?si=QibvkRTYVVJMgCVG The thing is that somehow when I read it I can imagine melodic contours and dynamics in my mind. I feel/hear something abstract inside my head. The thing is. If this has no sound/notes but it can suggest musical sonic ideas. Is it music? And if not, what is it exactly? @Henry Ng Tsz Kiu made me wonder if this could be considered a collaborative composition, because the person who reads the score is the one who fills in the gaps according to their imagination and counterpoint knowledge. To be honest when I was crafting it I had a mindset that I was creating a joke, a prank. But as I was finishing it I realized this interesting cognitive detail and I had to share it with everyone. I hope this was interesting to read!
November 6, 20232 yr Well, it's interesting But they are different possible targets. If it stays as it is we can go back to John Cage's 4:33. If the idea is to have others fill in the silences with notes, or something similar, it's a kind of indeterminate music, which John Cage also devised.
November 6, 20232 yr Can you attach an xml file? I would like to try to do something with your proposal.
November 7, 20232 yr This feels like it could become a contest here on YC: using what is given here, create a completion. 🙂
November 7, 20232 yr Hi @Ivan1791, I am telling no joke, I imagine the fugue as in E minor. Even though the fugue just comprises of rests, your writing makes sense with the rhythmic variety which I remember some professor says that the essence of counterpoint is not melody but rhythm. The countersubject in augmentation in b.24 is quite a seldom occurrence for me to see. And I like the tonic pedal at the end. Thx for sharing this interesting one. Henry
November 7, 20232 yr Author On 11/6/2023 at 6:15 PM, Luis Hernández said: Well, it's interesting But they are different possible targets. If it stays as it is we can go back to John Cage's 4:33. If the idea is to have others fill in the silences with notes, or something similar, it's a kind of indeterminate music, which John Cage also devised. That could be a possibility. I think the best option is to try to imagine the melodies on the spot, even if it can be a bit overwhelming. On 11/6/2023 at 7:00 PM, Luis Hernández said: Can you attach an xml file? I would like to try to do something with your proposal. Yes, although I will probably do it next Thursday because I'm not at home now. 😕 16 hours ago, pateceramics said: This feels like it could become a contest here on YC: using what is given here, create a completion. 🙂 It's a cool idea! I encourage people to try that if they want, will probably be quite challenging. 11 hours ago, Henry Ng Tsz Kiu said: Hi @Ivan1791, I am telling no joke, I imagine the fugue as in E minor. Even though the fugue just comprises of rests, your writing makes sense with the rhythmic variety which I remember some professor says that the essence of counterpoint is not melody but rhythm. The countersubject in augmentation in b.24 is quite a seldom occurrence for me to see. And I like the tonic pedal at the end. Thx for sharing this interesting one. Henry That's so interesting that it made you think about a tonality. Do you think that has any reason behind? I agree, rhythm is key to make a fugue flow well. Yes, I used it to anticipate the augmentation of the main subject at the end. You are welcome! Glad to see this was interesting to you. 🙂
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