Waltz in C Minor

It is better for YOU to correct it yourself than listening to the so called "advices" from me or anyone else, they seldom help.

Now you're just being overly opinionated again. Advice has helped me alot, the key is to learn what sounds good but use your own ideas. I think you've gotten the wrong idea about it

We ALL sucked at one point, even you. And you would never have gotten to the level of composing that you're at now by saying that all your compositions are terrible.

I'll tell you a true story about me. I started writing music during my sophomore year in highschool. I still remember how happy, and excited i was when i composed my First ever work. I took it to school, and showed the score to my friends. The reception i got forever changed the course of my life as a composer. They absolutely humiliated me, they took my score and showed all my "mistakes" to the rest of the class without my approval, it was embarassing, it was the worst day of my life. But, ever since that incident, I vowed to write "correct" music, and in time, because that i always beared in my mind this humiliating event, I was able to write a very complex work months later. Again, I showed it to them, and they were speechless. IN YOUR FACE! I peformed the piece infront of everyone in the classroom, and got nothing but praises.

and that was the moment where my composition skills went to the next level, the moment that i was humiliated by them.

This is my story.

-MT

Then it sounds like your motivation, SchubertTrout, for becoming a better composer is to avoid humiliation and impress others.

And that, to me, is saddening. Should not our motivation for improving ourselves as musicians come from within?

Music is a joy, to all of us, and the process should be one of joy, encouragement, and community. Not insults and berating. There is NO excuse for being an donkey to fellow composers about their music. At all.

GO AERLINNDAN!!!

Then it sounds like your motivation, SchubertTrout, for becoming a better composer is to avoid humiliation and impress others.

And that, to me, is saddening. Should not our motivation for improving ourselves as musicians come from within?

Music is a joy, to all of us, and the process should be one of joy, encouragement, and community. Not insults and berating. There is NO excuse for being an donkey to fellow composers about their music. At all.

again, i have nothing against this composer, what is good is good, what is bad is bad, I am just being Honest. Honesty is something you should appreciate.

again, i have nothing against this composer, what is good is good, what is bad is bad, I am just being Honest. Honesty is something you should appreciate.

We never said you had anything against him

We appreciate honesty, but not berating people. You did the latter

by the way, who is MT?

Then it sounds like your motivation, SchubertTrout, for becoming a better composer is to avoid humiliation and impress others.

And that, to me, is saddening. Should not our motivation for improving ourselves as musicians come from within?

Music is a joy, to all of us, and the process should be one of joy, encouragement, and community. Not insults and berating. There is NO excuse for being an donkey to fellow composers about their music. At all.

I agree on this. You were also arrogant in the sense that you only wanted to compose better music so that you could get your vengeance on others. That's the worst motivation I've ever heard of, you should do things like this because you love it, not so you can shove it in other's faces. And it was only you're first piece too, in all honesty, what did you expect?

There is no better feeling than Vengeance, I mostly write music for personal enjoyment, but for that particular incident, vengeance was the primary drive.

Sounds kind of.. cynical!

There is no better feeling than Vengeance, I mostly write music for personal enjoyment, but for that particular incident, vengeance was the primary drive.

Selfish, conceded, and stoic

There is a better feeling, knowing that you helped someone who needed it. Obviously you've not expierenced this, being as you only want to serve yourself

I'll tell you a true story about me. I started writing music during my sophomore year in highschool. I still remember how happy, and excited i was when i composed my First ever work. I took it to school, and showed the score to my friends. The reception i got forever changed the course of my life as a composer. They absolutely humiliated me, they took my score and showed all my "mistakes" to the rest of the class without my approval, it was embarassing, it was the worst day of my life. But, ever since that incident, I vowed to write "correct" music, and in time, because that i always beared in my mind this humiliating event, I was able to write a very complex work months later. Again, I showed it to them, and they were speechless. IN YOUR FACE! I peformed the piece infront of everyone in the classroom, and got nothing but praises.

and that was the moment where my composition skills went to the next level, the moment that i was humiliated by them.

This is my story.

-MT

so now please answer my question. Who is MT?

I have a question about your Waltz. Were you going for an extended type of Waltz? If so then I think I understand what you are trying to accomplish.

I personally don't think you need to worry about things like having even measures in your intro and such. Both Haydn and Beethoven were known for their usage of uneven measures where as Mozart liked the idea of even measured phrases and such.

I also don't see a problem with the chords in the bass. My only thought is if one is not careful one will create a kind of muddy sound when placing block chords in the bass register (you may or already know this).

On the other hand, the waltz sounds as if there are a lot of "thoughts" going on. I think the piece could benefit from the tailoring of the form and your ideas. I do like the idea of the mood changes.

It sounds better live, Majesty.

It sounds better live, Majesty.

I believe you. Midi can only do so much without proper human interpretation.

True.

I wish you would decide to write this either in elegant chopinesque style or 20th century post-romantic piano, because it shows tremendous promise. The first harmonic progression is extremely eerie, I actually love it. Just pick: Do you want to restrict yourself to common harmony or keep going with the somewhat bangy dissonant chords? I would go for the second choice if I were you.

Keep it up.

Thanks. Are you saying thast in some places it is commonly harmonized and in others it is bangy and dissonant?