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I Should Set More Keats Poems.

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Bright Star, Would I Were Stedfast As Thou Art Free Sheet Music by Robert C. Fox for Voice and Piano/Keyboard | Noteflight

Any suggestions for a song cycle? SHORT Keats poems, no operas here!

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A very good idea.

But the piano part isn’t very idiomatic. Especially in a style one would expect to be ‘romantic’ from Keats.

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28 minutes ago, Luis Hernández said:

A very good idea.

But the piano part isn’t very idiomatic. Especially in a style one would expect to be ‘romantic’ from Keats.

Well, I didn't have any intention of making it "idiomatic." I just read the poem, liked it, and set it!🙃

Perhaps you haven’t quite understood what I meant. Piano writing is based entirely on vertical chords. That way of using the instrument fails to make the most of its polyphonic possibilities, and is even less appropriate in the Romantic style or any modern derivative of it.

Yes, of course there are moments and compositions that use block chords on the piano, but this is for expressive purposes and in other styles (Impressionism, contemporary).

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42 minutes ago, Luis Hernández said:

Perhaps you haven’t quite understood what I meant. Piano writing is based entirely on vertical chords. That way of using the instrument fails to make the most of its polyphonic possibilities, and is even less appropriate in the Romantic style or any modern derivative of it.

Yes, of course there are moments and compositions that use block chords on the piano, but this is for expressive purposes and in other styles (Impressionism, contemporary).

44 minutes ago, Luis Hernández said:

Perhaps you haven’t quite understood what I meant. Piano writing is based entirely on vertical chords. That way of using the instrument fails to make the most of its polyphonic possibilities, and is even less appropriate in the Romantic style or any modern derivative of it.

Yes, of course there are moments and compositions that use block chords on the piano, but this is for expressive purposes and in other styles (Impressionism, contemporary).

Schumann - Ich grolle nicht, Op. 48 - 7 (Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau)

es, there are plenty of examples.

Apart from the dynamics—well, sometimes the software does the best it can—there’s a significant difference. In Schubert, the melody follows its own rhythm, independent of the fixed rhythm of the accompaniment.

But anyway, everyone should write however they like.

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2 minutes ago, Luis Hernández said:

es, there are plenty of examples.

Apart from the dynamics—well, sometimes the software does the best it can—there’s a significant difference. In Schubert, the melody follows its own rhythm, independent of the fixed rhythm of the accompaniment.

But anyway, everyone should write however they like.

Obviously, if I were to set a couple more Keats poems, and have say a set of three, I can assure you that the other two songs will not have the same block chord texture!

Another important aspect is the voice leading.

Notice how, in Schubert, the accompanying chords move very little.

And of course, I would continue to explore those poems....

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2 minutes ago, Luis Hernández said:

Another important aspect is the voice leading.

Notice how, in Schubert, the accompanying chords move very little.

And of course, I would continue to explore those poems....

Yes, I have looked at many Schubert songs in 38 years, but not all 600 of course. I write in all sorts of "styles," so I suppose I am but a living ganglion of irreconcilable antagonisms! (W.S. Gilbert, HMS Pinafore) Dialogue, poor Sullivan didn't have to write any music for that part...

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THIS is still at the top of the page? I think it is a decent setting. Maybe I should write more English Poetry settings. I could certainly set German, do some Lieder...not fluent in the Sprache, just working on basic conversational German, so I would have to analyze a German poem first before I could set it.

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Keats? I would NEVER set his little epitaph "This Living Hand;" very creepy, seeing as he died very young from Tuberculosis...or Gerard Manley Hopkins' "Terrible Sonnets:" they are quite terrible indeed, even though he is my favorite poet. (Hopkins suffered from awful digestive symptoms, very much like Beethoven. I think I shall refrain from discussing THAT right now.)

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