Pirates of the Carribean 3!

Hey and Don't Worry, i am not going to divulge any of the secrets for those who haven't seen it (only just came out in Australia)...

What I wanted to talk about was the magnificent music which accompanied it :-) I'm not actually sure who wrote the music, but i really like it.

The main melody seems to be built of a simple upward 3-note motif which is repeated and varied but what is brilliant is the piece as a whole and the perfectly timed modulations and interesting rhythmical accompaniments and counterpoint.

Good Music that could make for good discussion i think :-)

What's your favourite piece of music from the film?

The music was good for the film, but it's not enjoyable on it's own for me. I thought Zimmer's trippy music for the World's End was pretty cool though.

I can't see it until next weekend! UGH!

Hans Zimmer's music for At Worlds End is brilliant. I love all the songs but my favourites are At Wit's End, Up is Down, What Shall We Die For, One Day and Drink Up Me Hearties.

I also love the oboe solo in I See Dead People in Boats.

I haven't seen the film yet. No fair but I can't wait to see how the music all fits in.

Hey and Don't Worry, i am not going to divulge any of the secrets for those who haven't seen it (only just came out in Australia)...

What I wanted to talk about was the magnificent music which accompanied it :-) I'm not actually sure who wrote the music, but i really like it.

The main melody seems to be built of a simple upward 3-note motif which is repeated and varied but what is brilliant is the piece as a whole and the perfectly timed modulations and interesting rhythmical accompaniments and counterpoint.

Good Music that could make for good discussion i think :-)

The Composer is Klaus Badelt :thumbsup:

For the first one...

For the first one...

Ohhhh...yeah. But don't they still have some of the music, like One last Shot, and The Black Pearl?:thumbsup:

Well, I think Zimmer has used a few of the themes, but very sparingly. It is mostly original matierial...

Well, I think Zimmer has used a few of the themes, but very sparingly. It is mostly original matierial...

True. I enjoyed the Music also...better than the other ones.

I saw it yesterday and the music was amazing.

There was one theme that got my attention, but I don't know its name. And I can't tell when and where in the movie 'cause I could spoil it for the ones who didn't see it yet. I can only say it involves a ship. (It's not the theme of the Black Pearl)

It didn't really surprise me that Hans Zimmer made the music. His music stands out almost everywhere, like in the gladiator for example. That guy is really good.:thumbsup:

That guy is really good.:thumbsup:

Just a little bit :P

I've heard the music as well, and I have to say: I like it much more than the previous two movies. The first soundtrack, by Badelt, was good and innovative. Zimmer's score to the second movie fell behind, a bit, though (but it was still nice). This score is significantly better, and I am very pleased. It seems like Mr. Hans is getting his act together lately with amazing scores like this and The Holiday!

It was an amazingly simplistic score in my opinion. Seriously, it was in D minor 80% of the time, never modulated, and I think even I could have developed some of the themes better than Zimmer did in some of the scenes. But I loved the way it ended--it cut to the credits at the perfect moment in the music. Also, I liked this score better than the ones to the first two, so I guess that's something.

I have to agree with Mr. E = F Flat, with everything except that last bit. This score was not better than the first, by far. The second wasn't bad, and the development with the little jig that became Jack Sparrow's theme was excellent; subtle but VERY well used in the cues.

As for the first, it put forth a significant quantity of strong, memorable and effective themes and it wove them together brilliantly. Listening to the album straight through actually sounds like a coherent listening experience. The others are bit too disjointed.

After seeing scores like The Time Machine, I'm thinking Badelt has a better ear for themes and developing. Zimmer's got the bombastic orchestration talents worked to a perfect artform, but there's very little innovation in them. He should perhaps be sticking to more innovative works like The Holiday's soundtrack, and even the Dead Man's Chest one.

I may be going to see it on Sunday...

As for the first, it put forth a significant quantity of strong, memorable and effective themes and it wove them together brilliantly. Listening to the album straight through actually sounds like a coherent listening experience. The others are bit too disjointed.

I agree with that. I often (well...) listen to the album right through.

I loved the music from Pirates, saw it last week.

Klaus Badelt did a awesome job!

Has anybody ever seen The Little Mermaid?

I know, I know. But if you listen to the music without the movie, the compositions are quite marvelous!

oh, hey what's up everbody-else

It was an amazingly simplistic score in my opinion. Seriously, it was in D minor 80% of the time, never modulated

I just want to say that, sometimes something simple can make it really beautiful without any huge innovations and modulations ... which can sometimes lead to an opposite effect.

In my opinion the choise for simple themes was good, 'cause it made the whole picture easy for eye and ear.

I saw it yesterday and the music was amazing.

There was one theme that got my attention, but I don't know its name. And I can't tell when and where in the movie 'cause I could spoil it for the ones who didn't see it yet. I can only say it involves a ship. (It's not the theme of the Black Pearl)

It didn't really surprise me that Hans Zimmer made the music. His music stands out almost everywhere, like in the gladiator for example. That guy is really good.:P

In that case put it in spoiler tags:

hello

I just want to say that, sometimes something simple can make it really beautiful without any huge innovations and modulations ... which can sometimes lead to an opposite effect.

In my opinion the choise for simple themes was good, 'cause it made the whole picture easy for eye and ear.

Oh I know, and sometimes innovative music like that, while great on its own, will actually hinder the movie. Scores are supposed to add to the viewing experience, not take away or distract from it.

I should have added that while he stayed in that same key and never bothered to stray from it, he didn't even do anything great within that key. It sounded, a lot of times, like filler music. Random notes used to take up time, so that too much wouldn't have to be cut from the score later.

yeh, it is fun playing the Pirates of the Caribbean music. Somehow it make one always want to play faster and faster until they play so fast that everything fall apart. :D

Someone Commented about the simplicity of the music... Well i must ask you that, through out history, what have the master-pieces that we all know and cherish have in common? They are unbelievably simple when you actually analyse them...

This is true for soo much of the great music we love, especially the music which is so often used in movies:

The Romeo and Juliet love theme by Tchaikovsky...

Dies Irae by Mozart

O Fortuna by Carl Orff

Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto in C minor by... Rachmaninoff

Mozart's Symphony no. 40

Beethovens 5th Symphony

Shostakovich's Piano Concerto - I can't actually emember which one but i was looking at a study score of it just 4 days ago and it was suprisingly simple.

Stravinky's Firebird Suite

Shubert's 8th Symphony 'unfinished' (though i'd disagree that it is incomplete)

Mendlesshon's Overture La Hebrides

etc....

etc...

etc..

etc.

Have a look at the scores for those pieces of music and tell me they aren't simple in their contruction, ideas etc... It is indisputable that humans enjoy the simple when in constrast to their real life... (Then again, i also like movies that make you really think)

but you get my point...

By the way, in the movie i heard it modulate a number of times - but you are correct that it was predominatley in D Minor... and always resolved to D minor....

But never the less - i loved the music. Also, the actually Pirates theme, the one everyone hums and remembers, was written by Klaus Badelt along with a significant amount of the other melodic ideas used in the 2nd and 3rd movies...

However, the reason i asked about the composer was that i thought it was Klaus Badelt but the 2nd and 3rd movies had scores which were far more orchestally dense - both in terms of timbre and harmony - as compared to the first.

The first movie had music which was really quite 'light' in texture. Often utilising a solo instrument to introduce themes etc.

The other two seemed mainly orchestra all the way. lol

I love the music. The movie i thought was a little disappointing though. They dragged it out a little too much, they should have resolved more in the first 2nd movie to leave the third one space for a good plot. I felt that it was somewhat 'paraphrased' almost.

Anyway, if you are really into film music, you absolutley must find a copy of a film called 'Metropolis' by director Fritz Lang... released 1927. It is a silent film in black and white but the music is extremely interesting from a compositional standpoint how the composer allocates themes to different charaters and creates variation depending on what is happening on screen.

Chris :-)

p.s. I'm yet to choose my own favourite piece from POTC 3...

I like how he uses certain instruments to define certain characters.... The scorez for these movies reminds me of why I want to be a film composer

I just saw it, finally. I loved it. Barbosa freakin' ruled.

The scene where he was cackling as they went over the edge of the world was the best, then again as the drove the Black Pearl into the maelstrom. Great actor, great character.

The ending, specifically Will Turner's fate, really threw me for a loop. Elizabeth Swan got shafted in this movie.