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Your dear beauty lovelier still
Hi @Musicman_3254 Really beautiful entry to this competition. I loved the music to this piece, a lot of my thoughts are on cleaning up the score and parts so that they are more legible and effective. Some engraving thoughts: make sure the first full system of the score includes all instruments and their full names (even if resting) hide bar rests in the harp part if you are writing cross-staff for the opening, use hairpins instead of the cres. and dim. lines solo marking for instruments is extraneous octaves in the harp (mm15-17) would be better read on two staves as one hand would play each note clefs: none of these instruments should use alto clef cello should only ever be in bass, tenor, and treble clefs baritone should always be in bass clef never use octave clefs for a non octave transposing instrument harp m51 - use an ottava line instead key signature Gb is a lot of flats, it works great for the harp though I might be tempted to leave the harp in Gb and notate the flute/cello/voice in F# major, but unsure if it would be any better put slurs on the grace notes and connect them to their primary note not sure what purpose the marking in the cello part in m59 serves don't let dynamics or other text cut into barlines unless you really need them to (m86 flute) make sure trill lines extend to their last note (mm102-104 oboe) large harp chords - use one arpeggio line across both staves; don't need the up arrow arpeggio line unless you're going in both directions Some playability thoughts: I saw lots of comments above about the playability of the harp part, but I didn't read all of them. None of the harp part is currently technically impossible, but here are my thoughts to make it easier on the player. the Dnat to flat ped change (m20 and m101) is totally fine and doable. There's plenty of time for the player to flip the pedal to natural and back to flat - you might hear a little bit of noise, but it's unlikely. This is also the only pedal change in the piece, so I'm sure they'll manage. the cross staff arpeggios at the beginning are wonderful, adding in doubled notes in mm5-14 is difficult and likely not worth the additional amount of sound that will be created. I would suggest either start up the octave and bring it down an octave for more resonance in m12. on a similar note, any passage which immediately repeats the same note is challenging on the harp, as it required the player to mute the string and then pluck it again my thoughts on the large chords - again technically possible, it's just asking a lot and is quite fast. The player would alternate hands to play across the entire harp, so get rid of two arpeggio lines and put one big one across both staves. The tempo is likely too fast to play all the notes, it will also be too loud at the dynamics you have marked. Save the big arpeggiated chords for one per bar at most and make sure you really want to volume of so many strings sounding at once. A trill on the harp (m86) doesn't always work well. I would switch the pedal so that it's a bisbigl. between G# and Ab. The flute part is very low. I would not have it written to sound lower than the oboe damore. Even the very beginning I would switch the pitches or bring the flute part up the octave. Curious as to why you chose the oboe damore. It's an uncommon instrument and very, very few players have it. The range doesn't call for it either, as it all fits nicely in the range of the traditional oboe. The oboe does not dim. to nothing effectively. m72 and similar places will be difficult The cello range is too demanding of the player. High Gbs and Bbs at the dynamic level you have asked for is impossible. Bring it down one or two octaves. mm53-59 is confusing as well, it's very high and the ppp dim marking makes it seem like you don't want it to be heard Not all of the cello doublestops in mm59-71 are possible. The Gb and Ab dyad is a real stretch. ( I wonder if the entire piece could be transposed up a half step and you could use open strings?) Some text-setting thoughts: Lovely, lovely use of the voice. I also set the poem as an art song and I really love your rendition of it here. I know there are different house styles, but I would only use slurs to show syllable melismata or very long phrases. I love the stress of the first phrase, but make sure that important words are highlighted on the beat Make sure word divider lines (-) are not causing collisions with the text Melodies Themes Motives Harmony Chords Textures Form Development Structure Time Originality Creativity Score Presentation Instrumentation Orchestration Playability Execution of Given Challenge Taste 9 beautiful and memorable melodies 9 effective harmonies and instruments harmonize more often than play in octaves 9 good form which supports the text of the poem 9 loved the musical content 6 see comments above 6 see comments above 9 love the setting of the text 8 great piece! Average Score: 8.125
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Plus belle encor votre chère beauté - 2026 Summer Competition Submission
Hi @MK_Piano , Lovely writing and it was great to listen to your music! I immediately felt the connection between the music and the poem. I thought it brought out the summer love side of Verlaine's poem quite nicely. As a whole, it does come across very piano heavy, especially in terms of rhythmic pulse. Some engraving thoughts (very picky): I would make the string part staves just a hair larger for legibility be consistent with your Ped marking, sometimes it's the lines sometimes it's the asterisks once and a while a random staccato was missing in one part and not the others (vln m122 for example) I'm never sure if it's actually worth breaking secondary beams for 32nd notes in the violin runs wondering if articulations should be consistent between parts (accents in mm128-end for example) some repeat dynamics, make sure cresc/dim are always arriving at a marking not engraving but something to think about, the Richard Stokes translation of the poem is still under copyright, so the score would not be publishable with the text included in the front matter Some thoughts on the string writing (first of all, this is all very possible and doable, just some suggestions as a string player): first, thank you for switching clefs and using tenor clef in an appropriate context and style for the cello violin octaves - this gets quite exhausting on the player's wrist and in my opinion exhausting on the ears, I would use it more sparingly I would save the octaves for slow moving lines, not faster 8th notes (mm81-87 is probably not worth the effort) I would save the octaves for important places in the phrase/piece, it currently feels like a default setting if you're set on the octaves, I wonder if this would work better as a piece for piano quintet with the vlns 1 and 2 in octaves throughout similar thought - the chords in mm136-137 will need more time for the player, not a great idea to put them in such a rhythmically tight spot bowings - none of the marked bowings you have are necessary, these would all be obvious to the player vla part in mm18-21 and its analogous spots is quite tricky for a string player to be accurate off the downbeats like that, I wonder if it would be worth doubling the first note so it would be [D, DBD] separate than three slurred, that's a common string rhythm octave doubling is a string player's worst nightmare in this sort of late Romantic sounding tonal chamber music see if there are places to incorporate harmony rather than just octaves or octaves with the piano would love to see more rhythm included in the string part, not just the piano part Melodies Themes Motives Harmony Chords Textures Form Development Structure Time Originality Creativity Score Presentation Instrumentation Orchestration Playability Execution of Given Challenge Taste 9.5 lush, memorable melodies 7.5 textures rarely develop; lovely harmony in the piano, would love to have that translate to the full ensemble 8.5 clear sense of form, with very little play or freedom to it 8.5 lovely writing 9.5 only very minor errors 9.5 notes on string writing above 10 very well with the theme, loved it 9 quite traditional at times Average Score: 9
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On Pastel Skies (for percussion quintet)
The thing about the sound font I’m using with vibraphones has a individual pedal default meaning that all staccato notes should just mean dry sound or in this case what I think is default for non-pedaled if that wasn’t a issue then I would use no markings I know this is controversial, but I'm not sold that all the staccato markings need to be placed on the glock and vibes part. I personally don't mark percussion as staccato unless I want the player to dampen the note. If you want vibes really short you can always mark them as non Ped
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We Shall Fight on the Beaches
Music concrete featuring Winston Churchill and his speech, "We Shall Fight on the Beaches." Music was made with trains and church bells. We Shall Fight on the Beaches.mp3
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On Pastel Skies (for percussion quintet)
Hi @Fruit hunter , It was lovely to listen to your music! I think On Pastel Skies would make for quite the fun front ensemble or indoor percussion piece as well as a concert percussion quintet. It definitely succeeded in your goal and transported me to your Florida summer evening. I enjoyed the details you brought into the score. Wonderful usage of mallet changes, vibraphone pedaling, stickings, etc. You can tell that you are comfortable writing for percussion and that all the parts are able to be performed, even if some of the transitions are tight. Overall I liked the sectional use of form with reoccurring elements. I think you could have expanded the unpitched percussion sections more and explored that sound world for longer. Or even add sections where you more more thoroughly combined pitched and unpitched sounds. (I know the time limit was only 7 minutes - I did the same thing in my piece and pushed the duration to the buzzer.) Some engraving notes (I'm being quite picky for this score): I would appreciate an instrumentation list/page after the title page, so I know what equipment is needed for each player there's a lot of white space on some pages and a lot of cramped staves on others make sure the instrument abbreviations are marked Mar. 1, Mar. 2 (they are at first but not after you switch instruments) double barlines at meter and tempo changes check that your rests are simplified correctly, a lot of two eighth rests that should be a quarter rest sometimes extra clefs are left in after changing instruments I know this is controversial, but I'm not sold that all the staccato markings need to be placed on the glock and vibes part. I personally don't mark percussion as staccato unless I want the player to dampen the note. If you want vibes really short you can always mark them as non Ped Melodies Themes Motives Harmony Chords Textures Form Development Structure Time Originality Creativity Score Presentation Instrumentation Orchestration Playability Execution of Given Challenge Taste 7 wonderful atmosphere, not a lot of sections which felt melodic - not that that's a bad thing 7 a lot of octave doubling and not a lot of fully fleshed out harmony at times 8 enjoyed, but see comments above 8 interesting and successful use of the theme 8 see above comments 10 lovely blend of mallets - see comments above 9 relaxing summer vibes 8 some of the chromatic scales and octave doublings were a little too marching band-esque for me, but still greatly enjoyed! Average Score: 8.125
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Summer's Day: YC Summer competition
Hi @Kvothe , It was great to listen to your piece! Interestingly enough, we choose a similar instrumentation - I think the piccolo/viola/harp trio really speaks to the French summer sound of the poem. The range distinction between the piccolo and viola didn't personally bother me. Great harp part! - Breaking it down into groups of four notes makes it quite idiomatic for the player. With so much pentatonic sounds happening, it would be interesting to explore various pedal settings on the harp to group the glissandi in pentatonic scales rather than diatonic. If you liked, you could also expand the range of the harp part into the higher octaves on the instrument. Minor engraving comments: there are a couple slurs that seem to be missing or extraneous, I would prefer the viola be in alto clef for pretty much the entire piece (it never gets too high to really need to be in treble clef for the performer), and at rehearsal B I would mark those as dotted eighths rather than eighths tied to a sixteenth. It might also be nice to make the rastral size slightly larger for the entire score, just for readability. Melodies Themes Motives Harmony Chords Textures Form Development Structure Time Originality Creativity Score Presentation Instrumentation Orchestration Playability Execution of Given Challenge Taste 7 very summer sounding melodies 7 loved the pentatonic scale groupings, I think sections would be more effective with the picc/vla in harmony rather than in octaves 6 not much development, but works nicely for being a shorter work 7 beautiful entry 6 comments above 9 could be more creative, but very accessible for performers 9 sounds like a lush summer 6 simplistically tonal and could use development Average Score: 7.125
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"The Range" - for full orchestra
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Looking for a Sunset Bird in Winter
Hello, Out of the several pieces you have posted, I like this one the most. I think you have this very fluid and spontaneous quality to the way you write music. I am starting to hear your style. Your piece title has the word "bird" in it". I think we've all had experiences in our lives where we hear a bird chirping in nature and appreciate the immense natural beauty that comes with it. I guess what I am trying to say is that your music sounds somewhat random, but also natural at the same time. I would imagine that if I analyzed your piece, I might find some unified themes, but maybe that doesn't even matter for your music. When listening passively, it sounds like I am in my backyard with all the birds chirping. Maybe this is what synesthesia might feel/sound like. From a technical point of view, I am loving the dissonance and colorful chords. But it doesn't sound too overly indulgent or serious. I didn't read the poem. While I appreciate that your music was inspired by it...my personal philosophy around music is that it's bit more of an absolute art form. I certainly was able to enjoy your music without any reference to a poem.
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Donc, ce sera par un clair jour d'été
Hi! Umm this piece is quite virtuostic, but could work on voice leading and meaning, you could vary dynamics a bit more too.
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Lisztian toccata
hm.pdffinally got a bit of a break, composed what's probably my worst piece to date but I find it neat in some ways this was ment to be cute.mp3I am aware a decent bit of laws has been broken when making this piece, and that it's quite near impossible in a few aspects, thank you.
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Vals del Tentetieso, Om. 98
You’re right @Omicronrg9 , my Chopin example wasn’t very clear! His contrasting sections are shorter than yours. It was mainly the amount of contrast between sections that I was trying to explain. But you nailed it: length isn’t the issue if the material is adequate. Your material is definitely adequate. You’re right that all of this is overthinking. The music is already great as is!
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Donc, ce sera par un clair jour d'été - "From Nothing, to Something" Summer 2026 Composition Competition Submission
Thank you all for the thoughtful reviews and feedback! I really appreciate everyone taking the time to listen and share their perspectives. I’m glad the harmony, textures, instrumentation, and extended techniques stood out. I’ll definitely keep your notation and musical suggestions in mind for future revisions. Really grateful for the support! 😊
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Vals del Tentetieso, Om. 98
Hi @Seni-G , many thanks for your comment to begin with! I was replying you on mobile phone but it switched to PC, it was being a pain. So: It would definitely be cool, but not sure if the performer would agree 😅, it's not my most technically demanding piece but I don't really think it would be an easy one to deliver. I get what you mean. I didn't see it that way, as while it's true the texture of the piece changes radically at 2:16, the simple melody of this section is introduced around 30 seconds prior. M62 to M83 act as a prelude or a bridge to this brief (perhaps too brief) second theme. I could have repeated (with or without variation) the first measures of that 2:16 onwards, so the structure was more in equilibrium, or invented something else, yeah. At that time, ~2 years ago, I'm pretty sure I didn't think of any of that. Probably my thoughts leaned towards momentum-thinking rather than a "A vs. B" and/or structural equilibrium. Interesting, but a bit confusing since this Mazurka's contrasting section that appears after the repetition of A is in fact very brief, I'd argue briefer than (let's call it) the C section (cause it starts at C). Maybe, making it longer was not what felt off for you and thus it wouldn't have really solved the issue. Perhaps the material was not different enough, making it not fulfill the purpose of a small contrasting section, Prolonging it may have been useful for that, but if anything, Chopin seems to demonstrate here that time is not really a problem if the material is adequate. Again, many thanks. It's always stimulating to overthink of this, give some goes to it based on other people's POVs/clever insights... One gets used to their own pieces, I guess! Best regards, Daniel–Ø.
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Donc, ce sera par un clair jour d'été
hmm ok, I take note of that and use next time. Could you respind to the bit about the trills and the horn and violin part though? Honestly confused about what is it that's wrong.
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Donc, ce sera par un clair jour d'été
Behind Bars: A double bar line preceeds the new key only if the key belongs to new section.
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Looking for Avant-Garde Composers (I need your help.)
Thank you so much guys - you're all really kind! @Musicman_3254, I haven't listened to Gershwin a lot, so I'll have to check him out. Since I'm a big fan of jazz-style music, his music sounds so nice! @PeterthePapercomPoser, honestly, I didn't expect such music would be suggested (of course in a positive way)! I didn't know about them, like Takashi and Masayoshi; it sounds like fusion or something like that. I'll dig into them more in the future. @Thatguy v2.0, I had no idea Radiohead's Jonny Greenwood composes concerto works. If you don't mind, could you give me some examples? It's probably gonna be awesome - in fact, Radiohead is crazy! Also, for Xenakis, that specific piece wasn't familiar. Thank you again, guys! I really appreciate it :) Well, if the pieces sound really interesting, any type of avant-garde music is welcome. But if I were to be particular, I want to hear a combination of chamber and electronic music, or electronic avant-garde music. (I'm a big fan of electronic music - familiar with Kraftwerk, and generally speaking, IDM, etc.) I don't have many musical friends in person, and this means I have to search on my own - there are probably some gaps that I missed, even if they are famous. I'm looking for shocking, amazing composers/pieces. Best, Lithl.
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Donc, ce sera par un clair jour d'été
Thanks for the great comments about the engraving. I do agree about the empty bars and I made a mistake with that. As for the violin trills, here's an excerpt from Paganini's Variations on a Theme of "Nel Cor Più Non Mi Sento" that does this to avoid chunky notation, and I copied the same idea here so it doesn't look messy. It's perfectly acceptable notation. I think this will help you too, but there's no requirement regarding engraving about double barliens at key changes or tempo changes. It's done as a visual aid, and I personally put it only if the change is at the end of the line. What about the horn sounding note? It's all in a playable range by the way. I'm a horn player. And finally, the piece is meant to be virtuosic, so the octaves are playable. The triple stop is not meant to play as one go, but a broken chord. That's the violin standard! I don' needs to put an arpeggios sign for the player to infer.
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Donc, ce sera par un clair jour d'été - "From Nothing, to Something" Summer 2026 Composition Competition Submission
Entry:Donc, ce sera par un clair jour d'été Melodies Themes Motives Harmony Chords Textures Form Development Structure Time Originality Creativity Score Presentation Instrumentation Orchestration Playability Execution of Given Challenge Taste 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 Average Score: 10 Review: You know, I was not expecting piece inspired by the composers of the 2nd Vienna School as part of this competition. I must agree with @MK_Piano with the engraving! It is done with such care! Great job on that front. I must say that instrumentation and orchestration of that is on par. And yes you can play it. It is very creative and it has it unique form. Form when it comes to 20th century, well...let us not bring up. Form in the classical sense was toss out of the window and modern composers were more focused emotion and new ideas. Yes, this went above what expected of the expected and exceeded. Overall, I think this is best one!
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Donc, ce sera par un clair jour d'été
Entry:Donc, ce sera par un clair jour d'été Melodies Themes Motives Harmony Chords Textures Form Development Structure Time Originality Creativity Score Presentation Instrumentation Orchestration Playability Execution of Given Challenge Taste 10 10 6 10 5 5 10 10 Average Score:8.25 Review: I have concerns about the engraving about this piece. First, there are many empty measures. There is easy fix for this, though. Do not show them. It will create more professional score. Next up is the trills in the violin section. Place the trill sign above each note vs trill with line. The method you used is for a single note that could be held. Why did you forget to use double bar line when you change keys? and there is different section? With the horn part, please remember what the sounding note is! The consecutive use octave double in a row could be challenging for even for the most experience player. The triple stop you wrote is not possible: it does not have open string. Besides that, it is a nice piece.
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Plus belle encor votre chère beauté - 2026 Summer Competition Submission
@MK_Piano Please note the following in the competition announcement page: I did not have the opportunity or ability to compare the two versions of your score and rendition to see what might be different but hopefully it isn't too drastic as it might undermine the fidelity and consistency of the competition.
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Vals del Tentetieso, Om. 98
Well done @Omicronrg9 ! I agree that this gives perfect Halloween vibes. I think this would be a ton of fun to see performed live, with all those chromatic runs. Your use of harmony is just mysterious enough to give this piece a unique quality and purpose. You do a good job maintaining momentum so that the chromatic material feels intentional rather than wandering. I imagine this music would be stunning if performed on a dark evening in a room with tons of reverb (like an old church), perhaps by candlelight. Personally I’d love to hear this music in that kind of space. I like how you initiated a contrasting section at 2:16. However it doesn’t stay contrasting for long, but jumps back to that chromatic action right away. It might be nice if you had a real contrast at that spot, at least for a bit longer. If you delay the return to the chromatic waltz vibe, it will be even more satisfying when it returns. The contrast doesn’t need to last long; it just needs to clearly make its own little statement. I think about Chopin’s mazurka in F# for example (https://youtu.be/mkveDJgf73U?is=fEcIbMDCWQQihPus), The contrasting sections in that piece are very short, but they are distinct, and clearly create punctuation within the overall form of the piece. Those little sections take you away from the main theme just long enough that its return is a happy reunion. And importantly, those contrasting sections don’t remind us of the main theme. Just a thought! As they say, the point of a bridge isn’t just to make you enjoy the bridge, but to make you crave the return of the main theme. Thanks for sharing! I love the cool video too!
- Plus belle encor votre chère beauté - 2026 Summer Competition Submission