Please help me identify this theme from a filmscore

I can't for the life of me identify this theme.. I THOUGHT it was from Crimson Tide or Hunt for Red October, but it seems to NOT be in any of the excerpts I've listened to.

i was also sure it was a Hans Zimmer theme, but there again, I seem to be hitting a brick wall.

Excuse the simplified notation, there may be rythmic differences, but the musical outline should be about right.

In the original it's got a lot of male chorus... sounds "russian/soviet".

the video on Youtube where I heard it

Conquest of Paradise, by Vangelis ;)

Nice melody, for fun i composed a little fuge with the theme, hope you like it

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Bloody hell, what are these guys doing :O It is incredible..

Conquest of Paradise, by Vangelis

Yup, that's the one :) From the movie "1492 - Conquest of Paradise", by Ridley Scott (I think Gerard Depardieu is playing in it). Vangelis has written some pretty good stuff :) And he is Greek as well :D Hurray for Greek artists who only succeed outside Greece :S

Bloody hell, what are these guys doing :O It is incredible..

Yup, that's the one :) From the movie "1492 - Conquest of Paradise", by Ridley Scott (I think Gerard Depardieu is playing in it). Vangelis has written some pretty good stuff :) And he is Greek as well :D Hurray for Greek artists who only succeed outside Greece :S

I heard the fellow can't even read music. Amazing. Clearly he has understood and accepted his strengths and weaknesses well enough to really maximize his potential. An inspiration to all I'm sure.

Though the transcription has a few errors (probably due to sound quality of the video), that is the piece.

Looks like even QC has his moments of doubt :P

Yeah, Vangelis has written some good stuff (and some mediocre stuff as well). He can't read music? Wow... Really sounds like he does.

Though the transcription has a few errors (probably due to sound quality of the video), that is the piece.

really?

well, since I did't have the score in front of me.

it DID get the idea across, didn't it.

which error?

It's a really minor one, and pretty much only audible if you have a CD-quality recording (which I happen to have - Czech Symphony and Choir) -

The first beat of the second bar of the excerpt you posted - Dotted eighth, sixteenth, on D and B natural respectively, rather than just quarter notes. It might even be a double-dotted eighth and 32nd - anyway, it goes by fast.

Then in the fourth bar of the excerpt, the first note should be a quarter, the second a quarter rest, and the third a quarter as well.

Again - minor stuff - your transcription is still totally recognizable - and I must say, good memory.

yeah, rather minor...

I figured I wouldn't need to actually transcribe the absolute exact rhythm for someone to recognize the piece.

considering it's not exactly a piece for which I have the highest regard (related to my initial assumption it was by Zimmer), I wasn't too interested in absolute precision, either.

Not wanting to be negative again, but are you aware that this theme is actually nothing but a modern, fairly standard variation on the old chord progression known as La Folia in western classical music? Many composers (mainly from the Baroque era) have written variations more inventive than Vangelis' on this chord progression, including Lully (YouTube - Jean Baptiste Lully - Las Folias de Espa

YouTube - Final Fantasy 6 OP / FF Vocal Collection

Same chord progression.

BTW, This video reminded me of why I loved Nobou Uematsu's work.

actually, the reason I though it sounded "Russian" had nothing to do with any Russian composers, so you may have misunderstood what I actually said... I said I THOUGHT it came from one of the submarine films like Red October or something. In other words, a film dealing with some soviet militaristic issue or something.