Some postcore metal

Hi everybody,

this is the last song I`ve done which is going to be in the album I`ll record in November.

Lemme know what you think

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though it's not for my taste, but i think it's good. has its nice moments, i think on november you'll have it even better :)

ok, now i go on, i took one more listen, up to third minute its a real beast, made me think of frank zappa, or a i am off the track? then it gets very beautiful, i like the interval of gentleness, then again guitar is great and everything, except for the clapping sound, it's not there, it doesn't belong, you can leave it out,i think. i like it moving so free and still connected. i'd wish to participate in recording or concert of this piece. it's very alive. ant they told rock is dead, ah stupid jerks :)

do you think of any lyrics?

voice would fit there perfectly.i almost hear it listening to the sounds.

now i approach the final part of it - it grows up and builds on one heck of a pattern, now a break, dreamy, beautifuly growing. ah, what a good piece is this. scraggy,man, you made me change my previous opinion (because it tastes gooood).

except for the clap samples, its all brilliant. cograts!!!

anybody care to tell me what the hell postcore metal is??

eeeh, the guitar intro is so-so, it sounds always too 'quantized', as if you recorded the midi notes with a keyboard and afterwards put some guitar samples on it, some notes don't seem to sustain while i feel they should've. the 'chords' make it sound very, very unrealistic. the guitar is also too dry for my tasting.

i just poo pooed myself at 0:31 when the drums, bass and a distorted guitar kick in, hold on..

ok i'm back, the mix here is terrible unbalanced, the whole mix sounds too sloppy and muddy. the mix makes the cymbals sound like white noise with a 5khz high-pass filter on it, the kick doesn't cut through, the bass has too much low end, it takes up all the low end of the mix.

at 1:31 you tried some metalcore-breakdown-like-thingy.... didn't work. the drums are way too 'small' and not agressive enough too contribute to the harshness. i like the guitars (including bass) at this point though, it's very generic but refreshing and different at the same time. you obviously have a hard time programming midi drums, i hope somebody can help you with this in november (or better yet, a real drummer will play these parts).

also i don't get the strings and piano..

starting from 5:35, the drum 'solo' starts, and now you can really tell the drums are showed miles back in the mix, there's absoluty no kick presence at all, zero kick.

the guitar solo is a bit too power-metal for me and i feel it doesn't fit the song.

there's not going on much in the song, it's pretty repetitive and straight-forward, while some of the riffs you used scream to be more intricate. they would fit better in a more complex/chaotic (thus more agressive) song. this composition is ok, but i can tell you're not comfortable in this genre yet.

it's good that you 'write' your songs down in midi so you remember them, but when you feel the need to share something, try to make the mix a bit more realistic since it's hard for me (and others i assume) to really listen to the composition/song when there are so much scrafty general-midi instruments playing, this isn't really cutting it.

the bass guitar i didn't mind when it was playing higher up the neck, it almost sounded real (still, it's dynamics were almost non-existent) but it just demanded too much low-end freqs. the guitars would've been better off when the parts were played by a guitarist and recorded.

ofcourse, you can always use midi-drums (join the club, even 'professional' tend to do this) so you have less hassle of recording and mixing drums, which is a pain in the donkey. but still, please work at your midi drum-programming, it made the song way too static and boring.

also, i can't really think of anyone (including me) who would still be interested at the last few minutes of this song, there's not enough going on for it to be interesting enough. you'd be better off cutting this song up in 2 or 3 songs.

keep it up.

you see, you got two completely different opinions, now its up for your head to work it out :D

I can't hear the snare at all.

I can't hear the snare at all.

get better monitors since the snare is there, it's just shoved back in the mix.

get better monitors since the snare is there, it's just shoved back in the mix.

Ah. I don't have monitors, I have... PC speakers :blush:. They are good though. Harman/kardon.

Thank you very much Pliorius for your review.

The clapping sound is scraggy, I know...I put it cuz when I`m gonna get it recorded by "humans" I will put some real clappin and the part will be with a folk rhythm and screamo voice. I`ll probably sing on it some parts here and there, let s see. Once again thanks.

Thank you Robertn for your review. Very much appreciated, even because you criticise quite a lot so it is good so I can think about it and possibly improve. I will try to answer few questions you raised:

-I called it post core because the mainstream ( :( ) calls it that way. If it is for me, we can even call it new-roman-catholic-path-of-crucifixion-prog and I will be happy anyway :)

-The song has been done with GuitarPro and the sound that came out it is from the RealSoundEngine embedded with it. Strings and brasses are general midi though so the quality lacks. The thing is, I need to draw the concept and idea, it doesn`t necessarily have to sound amazing, sound quality-wise, at this point. That it s what I want to achieve in November with real instruments and when it will get properly mixed and mastered. I might keep strings (except violin) and brasses done with a software but surely it will be some nicer quality one than midi. Sorry about the actual quality though ;)

-I didn`t like when you mentioned the metalcore breakdown because it is everything but a metalcore breakdown. As they word might suggest, it implies slowing the tempo which I dont do. I rather go mathish if you want :D

-I didnt get what you meant with this("this composition is ok, but i can tell you're not comfortable in this genre yet."). I never had musical theory lessons and I`m not able to play any instruments but I try and I will until I get bored to do so. Then I might stop...

As a consequence, some parts are surely not what they could be if better musical knowledge would be applied (meaning that instead of the 60 hours or so it took me to write it, it would take a couple...)

Thank you for your review again

One word. It is epic. And therefore it rules. Get the necessary elements and it will be one hell of a rock piece.