December 30, 200817 yr I know some chord and can play guitar. i don't have musical theory(key, chord progression,.. etc). i wonder if i can write a music without musical theory. do you think it is possible? When John lennon and Thom yorke whom i respect wrote a music, Did they know some basic musical knowledge?? or they are same as i know that only some chord and how to play guitar(or piano)? they only depend on insipiration?
December 30, 200817 yr As long as you can notate music in some form (or invent your own form of notating music), there's nothing stopping you from writing music, no matter what you know about "music theory". Keep in mind that "music theory" is a rather open term, especially in today's times. There aren't any universal rules of what you may or may not do, there are just some more established practices in some styles/periods and some less common practices. A knowledge of music history, common composition techniques, common practice harmony etc. is helpful to understand how certain kinds of music work and it might inspire you, or help you to realize the music you imagine, but it's a matter of your personal approach. Some people want to "know" as much as possible before writing their first note, and approach composition from a more analytical or intellectual side. Others are more into experimentation and seeing for themselves what works for them and what doesn't. There isn't one single "proper" way of composing. So I'd just start writing some music and see how it goes. No matter what your theoretical knowledge is. I had only extremely minimal knowledge of any kind of "music theory" when I started writing my own things. I tried out stuff, let myself be inspired by other music, played around on the piano, wrote down all sorts of weird things, and slowly, along the way I started to pick up some music theory too. There's really no reason to strictly separate it into "first the theory, then the practice".
December 30, 200817 yr I agree with Gardener. When John lennon and Thom yorke whom i respect wrote a music, Did they know some basic musical knowledge?? Yes, they most likely did. If not from studying it formally, they almost certainly have gained a lot of knowledge from experimentation. (Radiohead is awesome. :))
December 30, 200817 yr Radiohead is very influenced by Steve Reich, who has a strong background in academic musical study. Just sayin. There is no *right* way though, but consider your options.
December 30, 200817 yr If You want to compose and thus express feelings, in other words, if the composition has to be unique and possess your own style, You can create your own theory. It is the matter of trying and experimenting on harmony, melody and other parts of musical piece. You can possess Your favorite chord progressions and cadences and simply use it! If You very like works of a certain composer, you should read the sheet music, listen to it and, maybe there will be an excellent chord progression or type of accompaniment. You can use it. But do not copy works of other composers, try to create your style and your composed pieces, which you will proud of.
December 30, 200817 yr Well, if you wanna write rock music, just repeat a I-V-IV-I progression over and over again with drum hits on 2 and 4. (Obviously it's in 4/4). (Before stupid people try to attack me: I'm kidding, okay? I know not all rock music does that.)
December 30, 200817 yr It would be I, IV, V, I anyway. Or better, i, vi, iv, VII, in minor. Actually, lots of rock music uses I V IV V. It's really sad.
December 30, 200817 yr Hmm, I'm sure I've heard I, V, IV, I quite often too. Can't really say how common it is though.
December 31, 200817 yr Yeah, I-V-VI-I is rather common as well. I think "The Middle" is, for example.
December 31, 200817 yr What a fail progression. Jimmy Eat World just barely missed being in the Baroque era. :P
December 31, 200817 yr Jimmy Eat World isn't good. Keep your generic proletariat white people music off my forum, please.
December 31, 200817 yr Your forum? Who the gently caress are you? "The Middle" is an incredible pop song. Grow a pair of dick. Lol.
December 31, 200817 yr I wish this might help.. Up by Fourth progressions has the most strong movement in all chord progressions (e.g. I-IV, V-I) Next is Up by Second (e.g. I-ii, IV-V, vii dim-I) Third is Down by Third (e.g. I-vi, IV-ii) This is only based on the common practice period. Those which do not follow the rule is called regression. They are considered to have relax moment when used. I know some chord and can play guitar. i don't have musical theory(key, chord progression,.. etc). i wonder if i can write a music without musical theory. do you think it is possible? When John lennon and Thom yorke whom i respect wrote a music, Did they know some basic musical knowledge?? or they are same as i know that only some chord and how to play guitar(or piano)? they only depend on insipiration? Maybe, that's why we have what we called ARRANGER, lol. Just kidding. :D Seriously, I, myself just read music theory from the internet. You can also learn if you want to. Everyone of us start from nothing. Good luck!
December 31, 200817 yr Your forum? Who the gently caress are you?"The Middle" is an incredible pop song. Grow a pair of dick. Lol. Yep. Jimmy Eat World writes some good tunes. Greg just has poor taste. Greg, maybe you sould go study some music at Yale... oh wait, har har har. My music theory profs idea of modern rock was Peter, Paul and Mary. :toothygrin: Some classical musicians just refuse to accept that their favorite music isn't very relevant anymore.
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