Unfinished orchestral piece! Need Suggestions!

Hi guys! I m currently working on this piece, and I m stucked a little. It doesn't sound bad for now, but I feel it's missing something very important to sound better! Any suggestions?

Tnx in advance :)LWONAM.mp3

Hi guys! I m currently working on this piece, and I m stucked a little. It doesn't sound bad for now, but I feel it's missing something very important to sound better! Any suggestions?

Tnx in advance :)LWONAM.mp3

Hi,

It is not a bad work at all. Once finished, I might arise a lot ovations. he he. I'm serious. It's a very nice work so far. The only thing I can suggest is: finish it. Perhaps you may take the first motive in F minor, apply variations to it until you get something you feel might mean something, at the same time it is different but complementary to that and you'll have at least a shorter path to go and finish. Of course, this a quite silly way to say that, but so far your work as is, has a lot of ideas to make out an entire piece, say 6 or 8 minutes long or even longer. It is pretty good. Perhaps, what you need is to rest a little bit before getting back to try to finish the work.

Bye, friend.

Hi guys! I m currently working on this piece, and I m stucked a little. It doesn't sound bad for now, but I feel it's missing something very important to sound better! Any suggestions?

Tnx in advance :)LWONAM.mp3

Very nice start. Sounds like an opening to a rousing film score. Personally, I would follow it up with a contrasting section with the harp and solo violin but that's just me.

Thanks guys for suggestions!

Maybe you are right RCampomas, cos I made this in "one breath", so I ll rest a little... and try something in few days!

Yes the main problem is actually in developing the parts that I already made... that's the thing I m not good at :)

Feel free to put some really specific suggestions, cos I m still learning :)

Wow.. Nice pice plase complet....

You end it on a tonic, if you want to keep some of that "drive forward" use another chord instead, either modulate to some other key or just end it on the dominant instead.

The first idea that comes to me is to let it end on the dominant and let it smoothly fade out and overlap with a contrasting theme - maybe something like what bkho suggested.

I don't know if he meant to only use violin and harp, that would make it very contrasting considering how the piece started. Personally I'd go for a contrasting lyric theme played by cellos and maybe accompanied by the other strings only, to begin with (but at the same time I don't think it should loose too much of the direction forward that your music seems to have). And then introducing the rest of the orchestra bit by bit to the point where most instruments are playing, that will probably make for a good transition back to a varied repetition of the first part of the piece. If you wouldn't want to go down that much in dynamic in a contrasting section it would be better using the first violins in their higher range for the same kind of expressive feeling but with higher dynamic.

Do you have the ability to show us the score for it? Would make it easier to give you more specific suggestions.

It's always good to begin a piece with thinking of how you want the dynamic curve to be. I start out by making a straight line representing the time of the piece. Then I make a curve above it representing how the dynamic in the piece changes up and down. A piece gets boring if you use the same dynamic the whole way through, so it's good if you have some sense of direction. That goes for chord progressions as well.

You have really mastered how to write music that is filled with action, lots of nice parts in the background. I wonder how you write? Do you start out with everything at the same time for an iea or do you chisel out the melody/chord progression for the whole piece first and then fill in the rest? If you tend, like me, to start thinking of everything at once for an idea (orchestration, chords, melody etc) it can be hard to come up with a continuation for it. You might dig in too deep, so to speak, in an idea. Try to think of how you will want the piece to be as a whole from the moment you come up with the first bit of idea. You can always reject those thoughts and change them as your work progress but it's not a good idea to have 1/3 of a piece 100% complete and the other 2/3 is nothing but "blank bars". You could try out to work on two different parts in a piece simultaneously and if you get stuck just leave it and fill out the blanks later. Sketch out a bit in the beginning, a bit in the middle and a little in the end and then the rest will feel like it comes automatically.

I hope all this babbling of mine gives you some ideas of how YOU work best as a composer. We all have to find our own system to work with.