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Transcendental Sonata

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Ok, so these etudes have turned into a complete sonata. Here are the 1st and 2nd movements (which some of you have already heard), and a new 3rd one, the finale. I've worked very hard on these (and can do no more, in fact!), so I really hope you enjoy them =)

Transcendental Sonata

For some reason, the site won't take scores, so I'll post each score here --

http://www.box.net/shared/61er0vyelx (1st Movement)

http://www.box.net/shared/4y3qfroy83 (2nd Movement)

http://www.box.net/shared/z63nl0oj2g (3rd Movement)

Update -- I decided to make this piece the true final movement of the Sonata I've created here. Given the meaning of the sonata to me, it really felt appropriate, and I feel this is piece gives it that final "oomph" it needed it really seal the entire thing.

You can hear the 4th and Final Movement here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUt_aIXIDX8

(The Score is provided with the video. But if you want to see the score by itself:

http://www.box.net/shared/hxzp7tu9yy [4th Movement])

great feeling and texture, your piece is very impetuous.

i love expecially the section 41-61 of the I mov !!

that said, stylistic speaking there is a little bit of confusion: too many ideas, too many changes of emotional fellings, unnecessary virtuosistic passages and jumps from a style to another.

.... and the work is really too long...

in short, i like ur notes (i can hear u got talent and fantasy), but u have to control ur notes, not let yourself be carried away by them (i hope google translated right..)

ale

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Allesandro:

You're right that there's a certain lack of discipline in how the piece unfolds, and it is a double-edged sword. I'm planning on making another series of pieces that focus more on cohesion over virtuosic impressionism.

Thanks for commenting, I'm glad you enjoyed it! :nod:

I check the 1st mov only, I come back later...

WOW, this is the very best piece I've seen for you, the great effort is quite clear to me, very mature structure and development, I heard a post-beethoven, a bit of post-brahms, but mainly prokofiev and scriabin, (debussy was the great absent there :D but one can't have it all)

Either you can't play your own sonata, or, you lied when you told me my Hummingbird is too difficult for you :laugh: this is more difficult that all my student pieces together !

I don't know how much took you to write this but is a fine job.

I'm not very sure about the soft part before ending the 1st mov, sounded to me a little out of place, or like an unnecessary coda.

To check the playability and how comfortable is your piano writing I would have to print it and play it, well, study it and play it because is not very easy, I can't do it now but within the future remind me to print this, is very nice. I'll come back to check the other movs.

Sincere Congrats Zach :thumbsup:

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Thank you very much Daniel! I am very flattered, coming from such a composer as yourself :D

Update -- the score's added to the Network now (I like seeing it there than on Box.net myself), along with some cosmetic changes in the score to make some passages a little easier to read.

Also, I set the other movements that were uploaded separate from this one, as well as "Dawn's Lullaby", which is the "soliloquy" used in the middle of the third movement, to "Invisible" so they're not being redundant in the forum.

I meant to post here earlier, but I had to make sure I had heard all the recordings, and that meant finding a solid 40 min on the computer, since my ipod can't play recordings off of YC (I find this wierd, but whatever).

$20 to whoever can send me a live recording of these. :D

Seriously, this is hard. To Mr. Zach Eaton/SergeofArniVillage:

Congratulations, you've written something that I have no hope of sight-singing, which is pretty rare :lol: Most of it is really excellent, there's just a few things I would change.

The voicing can be kind of wierd at times-see mm 128 and 129 of the third movement for a quick example. I'm not doing an in-depth analysis, since it is beyond my power, and maybe the way you have it written makes the voice leading more clear, but look at the first half of m. 128. Why not just make one group of eighth note chords? Especially when multiple voices are on the same note (see the second eighth note, right hand, m 128. Why the double f?). Combining them would make the score more clear.

The other thing is that you repeat yourself a good deal in each movement. Cutting out some (not all, but some) of the repetition would make the piece easier and more enjoyable to listen to. By no means cut out any themes or passages entirely, since they're all really good, just their copies ;) That's what Alessandro meant, I think, when he said it was too long. I don't have any suggestion as to how you would accomplish said cutting out, that's for you to figure out if you think I'm right ;)

My favorite part has to be the black key glissandi. Too bad they didn't pop out in the midi like they should. I also really liked how you worked all the themes into the end of the third movement.

Anyway, this was really fun to listen to overall, just the repetition got in the way a little bit. Hope that helped some.

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Thank you for commenting, Oboe! :nod: Much appreciated!

  • 2 months later...
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Update: Bump.

I realize it is a gigantic amount of music, so I don't expect many comments =) But if you want, go ahead and take a listen, and I hope you enjoy this sonata ^_^

Well well, this is quite something!

First movement is works really well! I enjoyed your use of harmony there. Indeed, that was what I thought was your finest work. UNTIL:

I listened to the second one. That is really awesome! I would have used the dissonances more in the other sections to tie it up better, but still, your best work.

And then the third movement. There, those chords that you use so often worked for a nice end to the piece. Then everything coming back at the end was great! Nothing much wrong at all :)

Great job here! I really enjoyed it. By far your best work... even if it is brutally hard :P

Keep composing!

Heckel

  • 3 weeks later...
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Ahhhh, you mean the I-III-V, Heckle? (At least I think that's what the chord progression is :lol: I'm still kind of fuzzy about the whole thing.) Yeah, when I was first starting, it was a progression I couldn't escape from, and I didn't even understand I was recycling it at the time :facepalm:

Now though, when I wanna use it for some reason ... I can use it without feeling like I'm simply recycling, simply by using it a different way :happy: And the soft, "balanced" atmosphere seemed appropriate for what I was going for in the 3rd movement.

Thanks for commenting! I'm happy you enjoyed the music :nod:

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