wayne-scales Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 ... harmonically and contrapuntally (and ignore the orchestration - except maybe where it becomes a factor in eliminating repetition or something else that's permitted because it's orchestrated that wouldn't be okay in some other contexts), is my best bet to get a piano arrangement from, say, IMSLP and study that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morivou Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Yes. hahaha. I mean, that's the simple answer. Although, if you really wanted to understand the piece, you would reduce it yourself. ;) THEN, analyze it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austenite Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Although, if you really wanted to understand the piece, you would reduce it yourself. ;) THEN, analyze it. That would take quite a while. But most of the time it's worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morivou Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Not really. Not if you do it enough. It also depends on the score. haha. If you're looking at 20th century music forward, there are MANY more independent lines (generally) than the music of 1800-backwards. And, the orchestras are larger now, generally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austenite Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 It also depends on the score. haha. If you're looking at 20th century music forward... ... then you most likely won't find it on IMSLP :angry: (not yet in public domain - I couldn't even download Puccini's Turandot, let alone anything from Shostakovich)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morivou Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I guess I'm a little spoiled. My college's library is helpful with that problem. haha. I forget other people don't live across the street from one of the largest music libraries in the world. #sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austenite Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I guess I'm a little spoiled. My college's library is helpful with that problem. haha. I forget other people don't live across the street from one of the largest music libraries in the world. #sorry Yeah, you're spoiled indeed :toothygrin: . What library are you speaking about? And what kind of 'wonders' can you find there? PD. It's very hard to try and reduce an orchestral 20th century piece into piano by ear only... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morivou Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 The Cook Music Library at Jacobs School of Music. Indiana University. You can search IUCAT (google it), to find MOST unrestricted stuff you want. {Pretty much limitless.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
composerorganist Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Ok, start with the early Mozart and Hadyn symphonies because you will need to read transposed instruments and the forces are smaller and the techniques more basic. If you want to get the very basics of orchestration - horns, woodwinds and strings - try Stamitz symphony (just 1) and then move forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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