August 20, 201213 yr I'm sorry if this overlaps with other topics, but I thought this might be an interesting idea. I think we too often see questions like "who is the best overall classical composer?", when in reality, many of them excelled in some areas and were weaker in others. I thought it would be interesting to break down this question into the various composition types. For example: Who is the best composer of... - symphonies - operas - piano pieces - violin pieces - string quartets/quintets - piano chamber music - etc. And of course, you can mention your favorite overall composer as well.
August 20, 201213 yr Author As I said in the original post, I was interested in knowing people's favorite composers by composition type. In fact, that's the title of the thread....
August 21, 201213 yr Well, I'm taking my shot, and am pretty sure that I'll take some heat for my answers as well, despite these showing my well-known preferences... Overall favorites: Tchaikovsky, Mahler. Symphonies: Mahler, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky. Operas: Verdi, Puccini, Bizet, Tchaikovsky, Wagner (not a big fan of his, but can't deny his overwhelming influence), Rossini. Ballet: Tchaikovsky, Stravinsky, Ravel, Prokofiev, Khachaturian. Piano (solo) pieces: Chopin, Debussy. Piano (concerti): Rachmaninov, Grieg, Prokofiev, Bartok. Violin & viola pieces: Vivaldi, Beethoven, Mozart, Hindemith. Cello pieces: Saint-Säens, Shostakovich. Piano chamber pieces: Brahms. String quartets: Shostakovich, Beethoven, Mendelssohn, Brahms, Borodin. Tone poems: Tchaikovsky, Richard Strauss. Lieder: Mahler, Schubert, Tchaikovsky. Choral music: Haendel, Mahler, Orff, Gorecki. I might be adding something else, but that's it for now.
August 21, 201213 yr Classical symphonies: Mozart - both g minor symphonies, Beethoven's 3rd Romantic symphonies: Schubert's unfinished, Tchaikovsky's 4th, 5th and 6th, Mahler's 4th, Maadetoja's 2nd Modern symphonies: Prokofiev's 1st, Shostakovich's 1st and 5th, Rautavaara's 3rd, 5th (especially recommended!) and 7th, Duttileux's 1st and 2nd Slovenian symphonies: Skerjanc's 4th and 5th - this one is on youtube, Skerl's 4th Tone poems: R. Strauss - undisputed master Operas: Verdi, Puccini, R. Strauss's Rosenkavalier, Sallinen, Golob, Kozina (Equinox) Piano Concertos: Rachmaninov's 2nd (I dislike the 3rd though), Rautavaara's 1st, Prokofiev's 2nd Violin Concertos: Mendelssohn, Tchaikovsky, Khachaturian, Prokofiev's 1st, Rautavaara Clarinet Concertos: Mozart, Weber, Lindberg Cello Concertos: Dvořak, Shostakovich's 1st, Rautavaara, Kokkonen, Golob String quartets: Beethoven (undisputed master), Grieg, Bartok, Shostakovich, Sallinen's 3rd Piano sonatas: Beethoven, Skrjabin, Prokofiev I would write more, but my daughters are awake, I just don't have time now. ;)
August 23, 201213 yr Symphonies: Mahler, Shostakovich, and Beethoven opera: Verdi, Wagner, Puccini, John Adams and Philip Glass are not as good, but I really like their operas piano: Chopin....duh....also Liszt is good too, as well as Beethoven Violin: Mendelssohn Oboe: Bach, Vaughan Williams, Mozart, Strauss, Albinoni, Telemann string quartets: Haydn, Beethoven Saxophone: Philip Glass concerto for Sax. Quartet Wind Ensemble: Grainger, Shostakovich, Holst, John Mackey, Frank Tichelli Alive today: Joel Puckett, John Corigliano, Theofandis (did I spell it right?), Jennifer Higdon
August 25, 201213 yr Overall: Mahler Symphonies: Mahler, Tchaikovsky, Beethoven, Berlioz, Saint-Saens Operas: Wagner, Humperdinck, Verdi, Rossini, Bizet, Leoncavallo, Incidental Orchestral (Overtures etc): Tchaikovsky, Beethoven, Bartok, Saint-Saens, Rimsky-Korsakov, Lutosławski, Schoenberg (among others) Ballet: Tchaikovsky, Stravinsky, Prokofiev Keyboard (solo): Bach, Beethoven, Lizst, Schumann, Widor (organ) Concertos: Tchaikovsky, Beethoven, Bach, Rachmaninoff, Grieg Chamber: Bach String quartets: Beethoven, Tone poems: Strauss, Debussy Lieder: Mahler Choral music: Mendelssohn, Rutter, O.C. Christiansen.
September 5, 201213 yr Symphonies: Mozart, Kraus, Haydn Operas: Monteverdi, Handel Keyboard : Froberger, Franz Tunder, Buxtehude, Frescobaldi, Bach, Reincken, Böhm Concertos : Torelli, Corelli, Albinoni, Petri, Dall'Abaco, Locatelli, Bach Vocal music; Schutz, Monteverdi, Tunder, Buxtehude Chamber : Corelli, Buxtehude, Torelli, Dall'Abaco, Locatelli
September 5, 201213 yr - symphonies Charles Ives - operas Mozart - piano pieces Beethoven - violin pieces Paganini - string quartets/quintets Elliott Carter - piano chamber music Miles Davis - etc. Stravinsky - favorite composer Your mom
September 11, 201213 yr These are all likely to change from day to day but for today anyway: - symphonies Schnittke, Bruckner, Simpson, Beethoven, Lutoslawski, Knussen - operas I detest all opera that I've heard but I'll go with Wagner because of his influence on pretty much everyone. - piano pieces (solo) Beethoven, Debussy, Ligeti, Messiaen, Schnittke, Dallapiccola - piano pieces (concerto) Bartok, Lutoslawski, Mozart, Milhaud, Berkeley - violin pieces Lutoslawski, Bach, Berg, Ades - string quartets/quintets Beethoven, Bartok, Shostakovich, Carter, Simpson, Berg - chamber music Messiaen, Martinu, Brahms, Takemitsu - Vocal music Schubert, Barber, Berg, Schoenberg, Schnittke Overall: Beethoven. I know it's the cliched choice but I honestly could've written Beethoven under every heading (except vocal and opera) and it would have been completely justified. I don't think there has been or ever will be a better composer.
September 22, 201213 yr Symphony: Beethoven, Haydn, Sibelius, Mahler, Lutoslawski, Nielsen Opera: Mozart, Verdi, Puccini, Wagner, Janacek, Britten Tone poem: Sibelius, R.Strauss, Dvorak Other orchestral music: Stravinsky, Ligeti, Elgar Solo piano: Bach, Beethoven, Bartok, Brahms, Messiaen, Debussy, Rachmaninov Chamber: Bartok, Beethoven, Brahms, Carter, Boulez, Schubert Song: Faure, Schubert, Schumann Choral: Elgar, Tallis, Haydn, Josquin des Prez
September 25, 201213 yr Oh my, such in astute question to composers. For me i do have a list of composers handy. I know where to find them when I want to listen to them. Nevertheless, I never partial towards any one.
November 4, 201213 yr Author I guess I might as well answer my own question: Symphonies: Beethoven, Mahler, Tchaikovsky String Quartets: Beethoven, Mendelssohn, Schubert Piano Chamber Music: Brahms, Dvorak, Schubert Overtures: Beethoven, Mendelssohn, Tchaikovsky Violin Concertos: Goldmark, Mendelssohn, Sibelius Viola Concertos: Bartok, Hindemith Cello Concertos: Dvorak, Elgar Piano solos: Debussy, Rachmaninoff, Ravel, Schubert Overall favorite: ...... probably Tchaikovsky, but it's hard to pick.
November 4, 201213 yr of the composers i've been listening to lately chamber music - lachenmann, barrett, sciarrino, kagel, nono, marini, sainte-colombe orchestral music - messiaen, dutilleux, murail, vivier, lutoslawski music with soloists - carter, berio choral music - ferneyhough, berio, gesualdo, stravinsky, xenakis solo vocal music - ligeti, codex chantilly composers piano music - schumann electronic music - stockhausen, reynolds, zorn, boulez opera - sux |:< composer most likely to be mentioned somewhere on this list in the near future - radulescu favourite composer - idk
November 4, 201213 yr Has no one heard Mozart's Piano concertos? :facepalm: We have, they just all suck.
November 5, 201213 yr Author Has no one heard Mozart's Piano concertos? :facepalm: I actually love his 20th piano concerto, I just haven't listened to enough piano concertos to have a list of favorite composers in that category.
November 5, 201213 yr Has no one heard Mozart's Piano concertos? :facepalm: ya kv 491 and 595 are best, 450 is gud, 453 has a really nice slow movement. 503 would better be called a symphony for piano and orchestra imo they're not as good as the requiem though
November 5, 201213 yr they're not as good as the requiem though which is exceptionally good because it was his last.
November 5, 201213 yr which is exceptionally good because it was his last. no it's exceptionally good because of the music lol
November 5, 201213 yr no it's exceptionally good because of the music lol i know, I was just kidding;) But it is the only Mozart work I like. Its gloomy, deliciously sad...
November 5, 201213 yr Author i know, I was just kidding;) But it is the only Mozart work I like. Its gloomy, deliciously sad... I find many of his minor key works to be very good. I think it's a shame that he didn't write more. I think I heard somewhere that he liked writing in major keys because it made minor key development sections more interesting.
November 6, 201213 yr - Symphonies: Beethoven, Bruckner, Haydn, Mozart, Shostakovich (esp. 4th & 8th) - Operas: Mozart, Verdi - Piano pieces (solo): Beethoven, Schubert, Schumann - Piano Concertos: Mozart, Beethoven, Bach - Violin solos: Bach (undisputed master), Paganini - Violin Concertos: Bach (also double concerto), Beethoven, Brahms, Khatchaturian - Cello Solos: Bach (ultimate master) - Cello Concertos: Elgar - String quartets: Beethoven (undisputed master), Cherubini, Haydn, Mozart, Schubert, Brahms, Franck, Mansurian, Shostakovich (4th, 5th, 7th & 8th in particular), Martinu - String Quintets: Mozart (undisputed master, nothing like k. 516), Schubert, Bruckner - Piano chamber music: Brahms, Schumann, Mendelssohn Categories you had failed to mention: Overtures: Beethoven Oratorios: Handel Masses: Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Haydn Requiems: Mozart, Cherubini, Faure Ballet: Tchaikovsky, Khatchaturian Organ Solo: Bach (undisputed master) Modern Choral Favourite Composer: Pärt Favourite Modern Contemporary (Living) Composers: Pärt, Mansurian, Sharafyan Some favourites I cannot quite place into a category: Rameau, Handel (concerto grossos), Dvorak
November 28, 201213 yr One day when you grow out of your "everything dark and brooding is totally awesome" phase, you will realize how great Mozart's major-key works are as well. Just because they have a sunnier disposition does not mean they are lesser works (although, admittedly, his minor-key works/movements are very, very, very good). Choosing between the later concertos (which, along with opera, was the category I would say he most consistently wrote masterpieces) is difficult, but 20, 21, 24, and 25 seem to me to be a bit above the rest. Only #26 is somewhat of a let-down.
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