Markus Boyd Posted Wednesday at 02:35 PM Posted Wednesday at 02:35 PM I have been working on a woodwind trio for which I have written a passage which has been confusing at best. As I tend to be guided by my ear when writing, I sometimes write things that sound aligned with my expectations but which I do not entirely understand! This seems to be amplified when I use chromaticism, as in this example. I think I now understand, but I am a bit stuck on what to write in the inner voice. My understanding is that the first two bars mark the dominant of A minor, with a D sharp chromatic inflection in the bass in the second but which resolves in the third beat. And the third bar is I in A minor, with a C sharp chromatic inflection implying d minor but resolving to an A minor chord. This proceeds to the V7 of A minor in preparation for the cadence in Am (but in fact resolves to F major). The upper voice descends chromatically in such a way that complicates the harmony and opportunities to fill in the middle voice. My low experience with chromaticism really shows its true colors here. I have attached the audio - the passage in question is from the 50 second mark. Would be great to hear other's perspectives. MP3 Play / pause JavaScript is required. 0:00 0:00 volume > next menu Trio in G minor > next Quote
Thatguy v2.0 Posted Wednesday at 07:25 PM Posted Wednesday at 07:25 PM Hey Markus, I haven't seen you in a while, glad to hear you're still writing 🙂 I love these kinds of posts. It's really cool to hear your problem, then for me to try it out and mess around on it. Thanks for posting your thought process, as I can start with yours and see where that takes me. One idea I had was to let the clarinet be a pedal point for the E7. I had F for the "Dm" chord measure, but it didn't sound good to me. I liked the absence of the clarinet here, so maybe keep it simple if this thought leads you somewhere. For me, it helps to see the entire 4 bar phrase as E7. I know that one spot is tricky, but it just seems like a big cadence to Am (Also, this whole transition from Bb to F is wonderful and very smooth. Is it Am - C7 - F? I like the iii - V7 - I movement). If I look at it as E7 with a bunch of chromatics, it's easier to think about the clarinet. I came up with this pretty quick, I'm sure the notes could be tinkered with. I don't remember, but little rhythmic motifs you may have used could go well with the clarinet, I just came up with something simple. Oh, and our music player sucks lol. It's hard to go to a certain spot within a piece, so I think I've heard the first minute or so several times 😄 Hopefully some of these thoughts are useful 🙂 Great stuff, keep us updated! P.S. The bassoon starts on B nat. right? MP3 Play / pause JavaScript is required. 0:00 0:00 volume > next menu MarkusBoydexcerpt > next PDF MarkusBoydexcerpt - Full Score 1 2 Quote
Markus Boyd Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago (edited) Many thanks for your input! I feel your enthusiasm for these types of posts. They are, after all, a kind of public challenge for which we can showcase our knowledge while also collaborating with others. I would personally like to get more involved with such things. It would be awesome if we maintained, as a group, a repository for knowledge in the art of composition - for example how to consider voice leading against chromaticism. No doubt we would need distinct zones for functional harmony and otherwise to accommodate people's diverse ascetic interests on this forum. That aside, I had seen E as a common tone opportunity for a pedal, potentially, but that seemed a little boring and unadventurous. However, as you suggest, perhaps it is neither necessary to add further complexity if the outer voices are already doing something interesting and distinct. Nonetheless, I thought I would rise to the challenge. I like your solution - that largely moves in thirds with the base and for which there are opportunities for further refinement by recycling some motifs from elsewhere in the piece. I am unsure about the treatment of the third bar as E7, considering the bass resolves to A minor, although the only note that may undermine this is the D in the clarinet during the third beat of that bar. You're right about the b natural in the bassoon - that was an oversight on my part. I will have a tinker over the coming days and report back here with what I've come up with. Edited 4 hours ago by Markus Boyd Quote
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