Sunday at 05:04 AM2 days How would I go about learning romantic harmony like Chopin or Tchaikovsky? Edited Sunday at 05:05 AM2 days by Colenbacher
Sunday at 09:28 PM2 days 16 hours ago, Colenbacher said:How would I go about learning romantic harmony like Chopin or Tchaikovsky?What is your skill level?
Sunday at 09:33 PM2 days Author 3 minutes ago, Kvothe said:What is your skill level?I am an intermediate composer
Sunday at 10:08 PM2 days 33 minutes ago, Colenbacher said:I am an intermediate comp33 minutes ago, Colenbacher said:I am an intermediate composerNo. I meant your skill level at playing an instrument.19th century music falls into CPE. Thus, depending what you can play that would be first stop, my friend. :)
Sunday at 10:09 PM2 days Author Just now, Kvothe said:No. I meant your skill level at playing an instrument.Ahh, sorry! I am an advanced oboe player!
Sunday at 10:13 PM2 days 2 minutes ago, Colenbacher said:Ahh, sorry! I am an advanced oboe player!Ah. Back to @Henry Ng Tsz Kiu point! I would not start with Chopin. Start with Bach.
Sunday at 10:14 PM2 days Author 1 minute ago, Kvothe said:Ah.Back to @Henry Ng Tsz Kiu point! I would not start with Chopin. Start with Bach.Okay, thank you!
Sunday at 10:15 PM2 days 2 minutes ago, Kvothe said:Back to @Henry Ng Tsz Kiu point! I would not start with Chopin. Start with Bach.Where did Henry say that?
Sunday at 10:57 PM2 days 40 minutes ago, PeterthePapercomPoser said:Where did Henry say that?Maybe in my dream and @Kvothe divined it 😅
Sunday at 11:30 PM2 days @Henry Ng Tsz Kiu I was referring to the point that harmony books, listening, and score study would help him
Yesterday at 10:48 PM1 day 4 hours ago, piano1324 said:I’m in a similar position, are there any specific books you’d recommend? Romantic harmony is a subset of function harmony. Depending on your budget, I can recommend several books.
Yesterday at 10:55 PM1 day I’m going to be reading EBooks anyway but for now we can say the budget is 70$
16 hours ago16 hr 7 hours ago, piano1324 said:I’m going to be reading EBooks anyway but for now we can say the budget is 70$Guide to the Practical Study of Harmony (Dover Books On Music: Analysis): Tchaikovsky, Peter Ilyitch: 9780486442723: Amazon.com: BooksModulation (Dover Books On Music: Analysis): Reger, Max: 9780486457321: Amazon.com: BooksSchoenberg has two: Theory of Harmony and Structures of tonal harmonyHarmony and voice leading and tonal harmony: both are used at the undergraduate level. Theory and Analysis, the musician guide is also used too.Remember books can take so far. You have look at examples and analyze works. Composers: Beethoven, Schubert, Schuman, Chopin, ect. All of these learned from those before composers before them. Beethoven learned from Haydn and Crenzy. Crezny who taught listz!
2 hours ago2 hr Thanks! I’ll take a look at these books. I’ll look at pieces too but its important that I first build the background to be able to take in the stuff that I see.
12 minutes ago12 min Me personnally, I found Beethoven useful as he was on the cusp of the classical/romantics eras. One really good example of his work is movement 1 of Moonlight. The fact that the middle voice is just arppegios makes it very easy to identify the chords and harmonies. Mendleson's keyboard works are also amazing for voice leading. If you're thinking about more Rach/Debussy impressionist works, I've found that the complexity and 'romanticism' of their works is more so in the rhythms. Don't fight me, just my opinions.
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