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Time Symphony Op.10 Complete

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which finale version did you purchase?

Now I am able to use the 2008 version that is way more improved! :happy:

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Hi Sebastian,

I listened to the first movement of your symphony a few days ago and I quite enjoyed it. There are some problems I have with it

the piccolo has been adressed as I understand, however, using it as a solo instrument is quite a nice idea but I just can't think of any situation where it could work. Maybe with a very light accompanyment with long drawn-out tones. But I do think the instrument is overused. The rest of your instrumentation is very heavy, I think using more contrast between smaller groups and larger groups, solos and contrasting instrument sections will create a more interesting orchestration.

There is this scherzo-like part which is really brilliant. But it was so bad that you repeated it! Such a great section should not be repeated literally (although you can 'quote' it somewhere) because then you lose people's attention. I was thinking: oh yeah this part is so nice, and then I completely lost my focus on the music because I already knew everything that was coming. I started waiting for the next part, which is a bad sign.

The thing this piece is missing is some great themes or thematic ideas. I hear that you have recurring themes and harmonic patterns but they are not catchy enough that you remember them or really enjoy them. It might be good to work very hard on those melodies to get them really outstandingly beautiful. (How else will people remember your music, or refer to it.)

Just my comments,

Niku

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Hi Sebastian,

I listened to the first movement of your symphony a few days ago and I quite enjoyed it. There are some problems I have with it

the piccolo has been adressed as I understand, however, using it as a solo instrument is quite a nice idea but I just can't think of any situation where it could work. Maybe with a very light accompanyment with long drawn-out tones. But I do think the instrument is overused. The rest of your instrumentation is very heavy, I think using more contrast between smaller groups and larger groups, solos and contrasting instrument sections will create a more interesting orchestration.

There is this scherzo-like part which is really brilliant. But it was so bad that you repeated it! Such a great section should not be repeated literally (although you can 'quote' it somewhere) because then you lose people's attention. I was thinking: oh yeah this part is so nice, and then I completely lost my focus on the music because I already knew everything that was coming. I started waiting for the next part, which is a bad sign.

The thing this piece is missing is some great themes or thematic ideas. I hear that you have recurring themes and harmonic patterns but they are not catchy enough that you remember them or really enjoy them. It might be good to work very hard on those melodies to get them really outstandingly beautiful. (How else will people remember your music, or refer to it.)

Just my comments,

Niku

Thanks a lot Niku for your comment! I really appreciate it! And I have to say that I agree with you in all aspects... :( But I try to learn from my mistakes! :P

Thanks!!!

Hi Sebastian,

Sorry that my post sounded a bit harsh, :( this was not my intention, I really like what you are doing. :)

I listened to the second part yesterday. That one is really great, you use orchestral colour very subtlely. You were able to create the atmosphere you wanted to have. I like the parts with the solo violin a lot, it feels a bit like a concerto movement like this. What you could have done is change between orchestra + solo / solo / and orchestra alone in the solo part, this would have created more contrast. You could also let the solo violin reappear briefly during the other parts. Also, on the wole you can do much more with more detailed dynamics I think.

Something I wanted to ask you, have you studied classical form in any way yet? If you haven't I think it will be interesting for you to study what other composers do to make from all their seperate phrases a whole.

Also, this piece somewhere reminds me of some of Richard Strauss' music, have you listened to Also Sprach Zarathustra (yes the beginning is terribly clich

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Hi Sebastian,

Sorry that my post sounded a bit harsh, this was not my intention, I really like what you are doing.

I listened to the second part yesterday. That one is really great, you use orchestral colour very subtlely. You were able to create the atmosphere you wanted to have. I like the parts with the solo violin a lot, it feels a bit like a concerto movement like this. What you could have done is change between orchestra + solo / solo / and orchestra alone in the solo part, this would have created more contrast. You could also let the solo violin reappear briefly during the other parts. Also, on the wole you can do much more with more detailed dynamics I think.

Something I wanted to ask you, have you studied classical form in any way yet? If you haven't I think it will be interesting for you to study what other composers do to make from all their seperate phrases a whole.

Also, this piece somewhere reminds me of some of Richard Strauss' music, have you listened to Also Sprach Zarathustra (yes the beginning is terribly clich

A round of applause for the first movement. Standing ovations. =)

Well, the ending was well carried, and It sounded a little eastern european. I would like to point out however that for the first minute, i do not seem to hear a coherent musical idea....?

=/ well just my thoughts, and I dont have either finale nor MUS (whats that...?) So I will prolly do the rest another day? =)

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A round of applause for the first movement. Standing ovations. =)

Well, the ending was well carried, and It sounded a little eastern european. I would like to point out however that for the first minute, i do not seem to hear a coherent musical idea....?

=/ well just my thoughts, and I dont have either finale nor MUS (whats that...?) So I will prolly do the rest another day? =)

Thanks a lot for taking time listening to it!

In the first minute the theme at the bass represents a single section (as an introduction) - played at the beginning by the Double Basses and Cellos and then, the second time, doubled by the clarinet. This particular section is not variated nor repeated in the first movement; it will be in the second one :) .

Do not ask my why, because I don't know what to answer! :laugh: :blush:

Sebastian

Hi,

Just listened to the last one, and wow that was different stuff! You must have listened to Stravinksy's early work somwhere along the line because I feel his influence. That's a great thing I think. This is a nice movement although in form this one felt even waay more chaotic. You make 'commas' in your music but, I constantly feel confused to where the music is heading and where it came from. But I already said that.

Some other tips:

The flute ornaments (the fast scales upward) are nice orchestration effect but please don't overuse it because it is clich

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Hi,

Just listened to the last one, and wow that was different stuff! You must have listened to Stravinksy's early work somwhere along the line because I feel his influence. That's a great thing I think. This is a nice movement although in form this one felt even waay more chaotic. You make 'commas' in your music but, I constantly feel confused to where the music is heading and where it came from. But I already said that.

Some other tips:

The flute ornaments (the fast scales upward) are nice orchestration effect but please don't overuse it because it is clich

Great symphony, but were did you get such inspiration?

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Great symphony, but were did you get such inspiration?

:laugh: Thanks for listening! And thanks for liking it! :P

Stravinsky said that "inspiration" is being born by the "will" or the "desire of looking to discover"... (I hope that I've expressed a reality when I wrote what Stravinsky said in "Musical Poetics" - I haven't quoted him, I just interpreted his words...) He called himself "an inventor in music"... And that's very true for most of us! :happy:

Thanks again!!!

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hi, very nice composition...this is my first post heheheh

do you have the score of the first mov.?

good work!!

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hi, very nice composition...this is my first post heheheh

do you have the score of the first mov.?

good work!!

I sent you a private message! I can't upload a score for it... :(

Thanks for listening!

Sebastian

I would like to listen to it, but being as I have dial-up, it will take a while. That's said, on thing that struck me when I saw this title was that it was Opus 10, which immediately got me to thinking of Shostakovich, whose First Symphony was his Opus 10. Just thought I'd say that--a little bit of my nerdiness showing through...

Well I wrote a long post about how much I love your peice but I wasn't thinking and exited the page before I could post it. Over All I really like this work, its one my favorites on this site. I liked the first movement more than the others, but the others were amazing too. Great Job!!!!

Do you have the scores for the third movement by any chance? That is my favorite and I am very interested in seeing how it is written.

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Well I wrote a long post about how much I love your peice but I wasn't thinking and exited the page before I could post it. Over All I really like this work, its one my favorites on this site. I liked the first movement more than the others, but the others were amazing too. Great Job!!!!

Thanks for your kind words... :blush: I'm really flattered...

Do you have the scores for the third movement by any chance? That is my favorite and I am very interested in seeing how it is written.

I've updated the first page, and I have a PDF. for each of the 3 movements!

I also added the 4th movement! But it's just a project!

P.S. The scores need a lot of work.... I know... I wish I had the time to do all I must and wish!

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