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Allegro for Guitar

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This is the first piece I've worked on since I stopped composing and buried myself in some textbooks.

I'm planning for it to be in binary form; I have the A section and the beginnings of a B section.

Does what i have of the B section so far look good? Does what i have of the B section work? Is it developable?

Thanks, Mark.

EDIT: new B section

Yay, At last you get your head out of the textbooks!:)

This is a very pleasent piece but I did find it got quite monotonous with all those quavers. You do introduce a nice rhythm in bars 5-6. Maybe some more rhythmic variation?

The B section is quite nice but, don't ask me why, I don't think its right for the piece. It fits in the sense that it has quite a similar feel to the first part but with a more simplistic upper part. However, I think you need something a little bit different in section B. Not sure whether anyone will agree with me though.

I think that it's great that your composing again and this is a great new beginning!:angry:

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Thanks for commenting :D

I'm still in the textbooks mate, just composing at the same time :thumbsup:

How about some imitative counterpoint in the B section for something a bit different?

Anyone know how possible that would be on a guitar?

Really love that first theme :)

The bassline is marvellous. Ah I see that you chose to keep the C chord :)

How about some imitative counterpoint in the B section for something a bit different?

Anyone know how possible that would be on a guitar?

Sorry, I have no Idea :D

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Thanks Matthew, good to see my bassline is being appreciated, I spent about an hour on it :D

Mark

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wow, 68 views and two comments, have i done something wrong?

Would sticking a midi up help?

Would sticking a midi up help?

Probably, but here's my two cents about this piece

It has a distinct Baroque feel to it. Although to be completely honest I found it rather monotonous. You could stand to add a bit of flavor here and there, Change the B section up a bit, the idea is alright, but the same note repeated 4 times can get rather boring. If I were you, I'd dump the B section entirely, it's quite boring IMO. Although what you have already is quite good, just add a little salt and pepper so to speak

Sorry to be so brutal, but that's my honest opinion

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Brutal is good, and thanks very much for listening.

I'm now thinking of completely dumping the B section and maybe taking the bassline from the first part, taking it up an octave and writing a pachabelle style fugue on it. Any thoughts?

Brutal is good, and thanks very much for listening.

I'm now thinking of completely dumping the B section and maybe taking the bassline from the first part, taking it up an octave and writing a pachabelle style fugue on it. Any thoughts?

Yes, don't do Pachebel :laugh: Pachebel has been copied too many times. Try something new, maybe something of your own? If I were you, I'd take it up a Major third, not an octave, the sound you have is nice and major, I would stick with the major idea :)

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can never spell his name :laugh:

I'm worried that going to E major might be too much of a departure from the C major centre, how about D major or A major?

I still like the idea of something fugal/contrapunctal imitation, or maybe using that as a ground bass sort of thing, thoughts?

I'm worried that going to E Major might be too much of a departure from the C major centre, how about D major or A major?

Well some of Sor's music has jumps as big as from Emajor down all the way to Am. So IMO I don't think any jump is too big, just so long as you can pull it off correctly :laugh:

I still like the idea of something fugal/contrapunctal imitation, or maybe using that as a ground bass sort of thing, thoughts?

Contrpunctal pieces are usually very interesting when done well, I say go for it!

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Yeah, I'll go with E major as I already had a B(V) to set up the Em.

I'll have a try at some form of two voice fugue when I get home from school tomorrow.

Cheers

Mark

The bass line seems a little monotonous... (did i get my spelling right?:P) Try varying the bass line rhythm a bit instead of just letting it appear at strong beats.

My 2 cents. :)

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Thanks for commenting Nigel, I'll have a bit more variation in the bass line if a get something of a fugue going.

Apologies, I haven't had time to do any more on this in a while, but I'm now gonna sit down and have a good try at a B section.

Thanks, Mark

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I've now uploaded a new file with a new B section and a few small amendations to the A section. And a midi, for anyone that's interested.

Well, i wanted to stick a midi up, but apparently that's not gonna happen, I'll contact Mike :)

Good work, Nice start on that, I find it better when switched to the Strings, try it. But again, great start keep up the good work Mark.

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Thanks for listening James, you mean change the voice to a string ensemble?

Yes, change the guitar to strings ensemble 1, and try it, quite a different texture and quality. ;)

Yeah I found that too.:P It sounds absolutely awesome on EWQL Expressive cello patch!

Anyway, well done on getting a different mood, but something sounds wierd, I can't quite put my finger on it. The top part is lovely, I just don't think the bassline fits very well, you could just change it a bit?

Sorry that's all I could think of, not very helpful I know.:)

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Thanks Michalis, I'll have another look at my bassline and check for any bad accidentals or mis-notations, i may have out a wrong bassnote somewhere and created a dissonance.

Thanks, Mark

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Made some more (minor) changes and I've managed to get a midi uploaded.

I've now decided to stop dicking around trying to get finale to do what i want it to do and I'm just gonna press on and try and get this finished.

Listened to your piece. I found it had a nice melody that went somewhere, and the bassline suits it. However, the rythm could really (in my opinion) do with some variation and perhaps the bassline could have more dialogue with the melody? I'm not much of a composer, so I don't really know...

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Thanks for commenting Rite.

I'm unsure of what you mean by "the bassline could have more dialogue with the melody"

Do you mean have a little more movement and little fills in the bass now and again or some imitation of something completely different?

Thanks, Mark

Yeah, and something like "call and response". I could be wrong... :(

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ah, i see what you mean, thanks, I'll try and have something like that in my episode in the B section, will hopefully create some good constrast.

Thanks, Mark

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