Waltz for a Princess

My newest piece, i finished it 5mins ago...

Its a Piece for a good Girlfriend wich i present her on her 18th Birthday.

Its again for 2 Guitars and Orchestra, its like in the style of "Julia" (if you remember). Really minimalistic but with a greatful theme.

Please take a listen,

www.impressive-music-production.de/princesswaltz.mp3

Florian

Ugh I hate love it. Look, I understand that you say it is minimalistic, but in all honestly it is not. I feel that you are simply saying that to cover up the fact that you could not vary the rythem. That one major flaw ruins this piece. It really pisses me off too. I really do enjoy most aspects of your writing for this piece, but I keep on thinking, your rythm is sooooooooo lame, and if he took the extra time to expand and mix it up, this piece would be awesome, but instead, i'm here, sad that you did not spend that extra time.

Hi Bitter,

thanks for you honest ciritc, it opens the piece with new eyes and your right!

I will spend some more time to vary the rythm after the first !hit!.

Thanks for that fast answer!

FL

i worked on the whole rythm of the piece, hope its better now...

www.impressive-music-production.de/princesswaltz.mp3

so please listen to its new form...

FL

I just love it. That's truly an outstanding piece you got here.

I like it alot matter fact.

lets chill with some beers to celebrate this great accomplishment.

hugs

javier

It's really good! I love the full sound (something I can never ever achieve with Fruity Loops); how did you do that? What did you produce it with? The recording is superb.

Hi Tozzy,

i recorded it with EWQLSO Gold, in collabration with NI Kontakt2 and Cubase SX3. The 2 Guitars are the MusicLab Realguitar.

I did also worked with fruity loops before but your right fruity is not half good as cubase is, i truly can recommend it!

best wishes,

FL

I did also worked with fruity loops before but your right fruity is not half good as cubase is, i truly can recommend it!

I know it's not always the case, but I think in this instance I would say that it's not always the tools that help produce a good song, but the good level of knowledge and understanding. I find creating music extremely difficult and all the best tools in the world won't help me, not even cubase ;). I've looked at cubase and does look like it has the same sort of features as FL and I've also heard some really pro songs with FL too. I don't think that cubase will make my work any better. I mean, thanks for your advice :), but I think the majority is up to my skills.

At the moment, I'm really struggling with my song because I've got nothing to work with, my imagination is a very weak point. I don't know if it's just my style of working, but I can never build up a song like the one you've just done, 'waltz for a princess'.

Florian,

I enjoyed the piece and definitely excellent job with the samples. I don't know what you may have reworked, but I didn't have any problems with the rhythm. I think in this type of piece, the melody is king, and you have a good one. I also enjoyed the interplay between the the guitars and the celesta (I think?) in the middle section starting around 1:50, and again with the celesta around 3:10.

I hope your 'Princess' loved it.

VERY GOOD!

Wonderful... I loved this one...

The rythm is addictive, while the orchestration isn't exactly very rich it does bear a surprisingly strong feeling of life to it.

The melody is astounding too... :)

Thxc guys,

i reworked the whole piece again and changed some harmonies to make it better.

I will upload it on sunday, i also reworked on the orchestration, that was an point wich wasn't perfect.

FL

Okay guys, now i uploaded the final piece,

have fun with it: www.impressive-music-production.de/princesswaltz.mp3

FL

To be honest I didn't really like the newest one. I thought that your second one was the best. The melody seems to wonder off a bit in the beginning in your latest one. I also thought that the piece has lost some of it's charm and delicacy suggested from the title becasue of the more powerful orchestration. Overall it's still a very good piece.

This has such a great ending, I also liked the second revision more than the lastest one.

Well thx guys,

i changed the harmonies in order of "critics" of some "professional game composers" maybe a wrong decision... They just don't know that minimalistic harmonystyle.

Well but i also like the latest more then the others, its more perfectely orchestrated etc.

But thats everyones choice for themselfs.

FL

Hi, guys, :thumbsup:

well, I listened to both the second and the third version. And I prefer the last one (personal taste). :laugh:

I feel that some harmonies didn't work well in both versions, though. Do you have a score?

This is the first time I've ever listened to a piece four times in rapid succession on this site.

Just think about that. Truly beautiful. Is it cool to download it from the site its on? I would go as far as to put that on my iPod if you gave permission!

Personally I prefer the last one as well, but not by much. The seocnd and third versions are both brilliant but the third just has the edge. I think the more powerful orchestration is good, it gives it a bit more feeling.

Hi Fox,

it honours me that you'd like to put it on your Ipod, truly you can.

Thanks for commenting.

FL

I truly like this song and as for the second or third version of it, I can't really decide which I like more. I admire both versions and think they both have their own great qualities, I think that you as the composer should decide which is the best. Great work! I hope your princess loved the song.

I can't stop listening to it, very inspirational, very moving.

Hey there Florian,

Reading up on previous comments, I almost feel guilty giving my opinion here, but as you've asked me for it I will of course volunteer it with my usual succinctness, if not promptness.

First off, I listened to the later 2 versions because I assumed them to be the best representation of your work, and I can very easily say that both versions suffer from the faults I found with them and are not different enough from each other to be worth my pointing out too many discrepancies.

Second, your orchestration is nice throughout; powerful, thick and effective. The issue I have with it is that you very rarely changed your leading and didn't go out of your way to have the melodic material feel new each time it comes in.

The production quality is consistent with what I've come to expect of your work; the use of samples is strong and the mixing is good. I might have chosen some different violins in the beginning, with a little more bite and a little less expressiveness, but that's more personal choice.

My major issue with the piece is that it's extremely static to my ears for some reason. Yes, there's development but for some reason the whole thing just feels extremely repetitive. I understand that, being a waltz, one should be able to dance to this for an extended period of time, but it really just seemed painfully drawn out. The middle section especially just seemed to keep going on and on forever without justifying itself musically.

The other thing I missed was dynamic variety. You stayed at a very consistent volume level almost throughout the piece and that started to bug me; especially when some solo instrument came in to re-state the melody and had no dynamic contrast to smooth its entrance.

Also, I know that you think the theme is "very greatful", but I didn't find it particularly inspiring myself.

Otherwise the piece was very good and I hope she enjoyed/will enjoy it. Of all the versions, I'd keep the last for listening just because it's less stale and maybe the second one for actually dancing to because it feels longer and you'll probably be paying more attention to the girl than the music so then it doesn't matter that it's so repetitive.

Thanks for sharing! :laugh:

Very nice. I'm listening to the first piece you posted. You captured my interest from the start with the simple theme and accompianment. Nicely orchestrated and thoughtful dynamics. Just my taste perhaps...but near the middle of the piece I'm yearning for contrast. The repetition is wearing just a bit, and a key change/ accompianment change - variation section, secondary theme would have been welcome here. Overall - I did enjoy this, though. Good work.