The Greatest Piece of Music Ever Written

Without a doubt "Oops, I did it again", especially in the unforgettable interpretation by B. Spears.

Structurally, harmonically, melodically a BRILLIANT tour-de-force of vocal music which will SURELY withstand the test of time and be for the future a standard of the vocal repertoire.

nah, i think nicole scherzinger has an edge here - structurally, harmonically, melodically and asstitingly. that is a mix that never fails and fades :D

You know, there is a lot of evidence circulating around that this piece isn't actually by Bach, and that he wrote a transcription from a violin solo of another composer's hand. You can search around for the articles on the web. They're quite surprising.

Irrespective of whether or not Bach wrote BWV565 (and despite having immersed myself in Bach's music, I still can't decide if it's just puerile part-writing or a pass-off), it pales by comparison with many of the composer's other works for organ. I'm currently playing BWV 548, the 'Wedge' fugue in E minor - that's a vastly superior demonstration of fugal writing using a compound melody as subject. I also think it's a far more exciting piece.

This question is ludicrous though. In my opinion anyone who think they can answer it has an opinion that's not worth listening to, since in order to answer the question they can't have considered it properly in the first place.

BWV565 is essentially a written down improvisation that Bach used to test organs. It's no wonder that it lacks the qualities of his carefully constructed pieces.

Qccowboy:

Haha :D I agree: http://www.freewebs.com/jujehmufeh/01.%20Oops.mp3

(that's me and the group I had to do an arrangement of a piece/song with - that idiot acting in the beginning is me.. >_> )

(guess whose idea was it to do an arrangement of "oops I did it again" :P )

Qccowboy:

Haha :D I agree: http://www.freewebs.com/jujehmufeh/01.%20Oops.mp3

(that's me and the group I had to do an arrangement of a piece/song with - that idiot acting in the beginning is me.. >_> )

(guess whose idea was it to do an arrangement of "oops I did it again" :P )

:D That's BRILLIANT!

hehe :P The singers are not perfect, but hey, we had some 2 hours spread throughout 3 weeks to do it. We really had a great time :) And you should have seen it as well, the singers were bending their knees in front of the piano on the beat, and I was jumping with every chord I played on the piano :P We had good percussion as well :D

thats a nice remix u got ther, it would be a shame if anythin were to happen to it. . . .

Actually, think about it. Britney spears has a lot more chance to outlive any of us in terms of popularity and "test of time", since how the hell are you going to get rid of so many CDs? Nevermind all the advertising material, PR, etc etc that these pop artists spew out isn't biodegradable.

Though it probably should be.

thats a nice remix u got ther, it would be a shame if anythin were to happen to it. . . .

Are you... threatening my .mp3 file or something? :huh:

I would kind hate myself if I ever had the kind of "success" that Britney has... :P

I think that the Confutatis Maledictis part of Mozart's requiem is the best. It is just so moving and powerful.

Are you... threatening my .mp3 file or something? :huh:

THREATENING? Well I NEVER...!!! No. Maybe. Well no, not really. But who knows, why be so negative?

Honestly I'd like to half the popularity she got during the times where she wasn't bald and broken down. Only half. All of it would end up in me losing all my hair and being broken down.

thats a nice remix u got ther, it would be a shame if anythin were to happen to it. . . .

I'm strongly reminded of...

But sorry for derailing.

Symphonies eh?

Dvorak No.9 - best one EVER!! :D :D :D

O yea!!

Serial: Suggestion Diabolique - Schoenberg

You mean Prokofiev? Written well before 12-tone system, but there are sharp enough dissonances to think it

It's understandable that much 20th century music is struck down here, seeing that they haven't stood the test of time yet, but here are some guesses of what might overthrow the masters...

Symphonic/Orchestral:

Mahler 9 - the last mvt may be the greatest single mvt

Mahler Das Lied Von der Erde

definitely Shostakovich, maybe 10?

Sibelius, don't know each well enough

Bartok Concerto for Orchestra

Rite Of Spring definitely

Daphnis and Chloe - Ravel

Piano Concerti:

Prokofiev No. 3

Bartok, 1 or 3?

Rachmaninov

Violin Concerti (my main instrument):

Berg for sure

Sibelius, although it's essentially a Romantic piece

Prokofiev #1

Chamber:

Ravel Trio and Quartet

Verklarte nacht and Pierrot Lunaire - Schoenberg

Bartok Quartet no. 3, 4, 5

Lyric Suite - Berg

Hindemith Kammermusik

Shostakovich definitely 8, maybe a couple others

Messiaen Quartet For The End Of Time

Choral:

Don't know much but Faure's Requiem is likely, Schoenberg Gurrelieder maybe

Opera:

Wozzeck, Lulu - Berg

Peter Grimes - Britten (haven't heard much)

Porgy and Bess - Gershwin

Pop:

Pet Sounds - The Beach Boys

maybe Brian Wilson's Smile

Sgt. Pepper - The Beatles

Dark Side Of The Moon - Pink Floyd

and since I am a violinist I'll offer my opinion on the violin concerto...mendelssohn will always be the greatest without a doubt

Test of time means scraggy when it comes to art, I must add. I mean, "Hey a lot of people liked this for a lot of time!" doesn't have anything to do with the piece itself. In fact, it has nothing to do with art at all, it's just popularity and tradition/culture pull.

But this has been said thousands of times, so I'll leave it there.

It is a logical fallacy, if that's what you're trying to say, but nobody started a philosophical argument here, they just said that she's "successful" in a way because she is very famous and is going to last throughout time (if she is).

In any case, there are so many logical fallacies that you can't really prove anything true or false anymore :P And yes, if Art is about touching other people and other people liking your work, then if a work has endured through time, it's a good piece of art. But we're getting in the "what is art" conversation now, which has no answer, so I won't bother doing that :P

Good, don't. Someone brought the whole "test of time" scraggy, so I was just clearing that up.

Tchaikovsky 4 is the BEST because it's SOOOOO EMOTIONAL :sadtears::sadtears::sadtears::sadtears:

NUH UH! Beethoven's 5th... cuz it is loud... very moving!

Gustav Holst is louder, that means he was the greatest composer that ever lived

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Lol. Yah, Tchaikowsky was emotional, but a lot of people hold that against him. People criticize the hell out of him for "playing to the masses." To me, that's not a bad thing!

Lol. Yah, Tchaikowsky was emotional, but a lot of people hold that against him. People criticize the hell out of him for "playing to the masses." To me, that's not a bad thing!

No, people criticize Tchaikovsky for technical aspects and moments of triteness, not because people liked him, that's ridiculous. Mozart and Haydn "wrote to the masses" too.

There's no point rebuffing an un-backed-up one-sentence opinion with an un-backed-up one-sentence opinion - it's just going to turn into an argument about who feels he's 'more right'.

There's no point rebuffing an un-backed-up one-sentence opinion with an un-backed-up one-sentence opinion - it's just going to turn into an argument about who feels he's 'more right'.

Indeed.

Good, don't. Someone brought the whole "test of time" scraggy, so I was just clearing that up.

I was simply pointing out that there weren't too many mentions of 20th century rep, and my guess was maybe that people were citing time to standardize these pieces as a reason (it could just as likely be unexposure?) ...in my eyes, if a composition is great it's greatness is the same as the time it was conceived until years later

Greatest ever:

Carla Bley - Birds Of Paradise.

It's a spectacular specimen of all things musical.

Oh, one more topic of this kind ...