The Last Survivor - Short Action Track - Real Orch

Hey Guys,

haven't posted here for quite a while, so I thought I might share one of my latest tracks with you guys. It's a 90sec action track which I recorded recently to fill up my demo-reel with a few orchestral action styles.

You can have a listen at Audio | Robin Hoffmann It's the first track in the audio player.

Comments are very welcome.

Robin

Wow :O:thumbsup: I really like it dude!! Real orchestras are so nice, samples can be sound so dumb sometimes...I hope one day a real orchestra will play my pieces too...it would be awsome

I really liked the brass parts in it. Film music style 4ever :cool:

Robin

Welcome back to YC.

You have a great selection of music on your site and hopefully you will jump in here at YC and provide assistance to our less fortunate members that don't have access to orchestras.

Ron

Hey Robin, fantastic fantastic stuff! There's nothing better than a real orchestra.

Thanks alot guys!

Just listened.

... ... I really can't think of any words to describe what I thought of this other than amazing[ness]

This was really inspiring to me.

Wow! This is really great, Respect! Keep on making these kind of tracks :)

Hello! I can't listen right now becuase I'm at school, and they have proxys..

But I will listen when I get home. I'm looking forward to it!

How exactly do you get a real orchestra to play them?

Do you have a deal with a studio or something?

Very nice btw.

Thanks!

No, well, I (or rather my clients) pay them, to record music for their project. This little track was recorded to fill up some remaining session time on another recording. So just the usual way, pay for it :)

argh, i want to hear this kind of arrangments in ewsql fro, YC, see if they can deliver.

very impressive composition skills and arranging. your intros i noticed are your upper cut punch. you give an astounding impact on the start and the rest is vibrating througout?

good job kid!

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just went through your stuff, very wicked! make me wish i was more serious about my music when i was younger, it definitely makes the difference.

(go hide and die lol)

Thanks!

No, well, I (or rather my clients) pay them, to record music for their project. This little track was recorded to fill up some remaining session time on another recording. So just the usual way, pay for it :)

Thanks, do you know how much it costs usually with a full orchestra?

Hourly rate or something?

This reminds me of Harry Potter at the start, LoTR after 1 min before back to HP at the end. Anyway, this sounds great.

Orchestra makes it sound top notch, shows the difference between digital and live orchestras. Hope I can get anywhere near this piece's quality sometime in the future....

@TheJ and CheeseLord: Thanks alot :)

@coax: Depends on what Orchestra you want. Generally you should count in about 10000 Euros per scoring session (=4 hours) for a decently sounding orchestra. That's usually the minimum you have to book.

Thanks, that's far out of my reach :D

You are lucky to hear your compositions in their full glory :]

10K euro / 120 players ... wow thats pretty cheap actually, each player gets around 80 euro for 4 hours, thats 20euro per hour, thats what i make when i teach lol..(but this is more fun for sure). usually film scoring is with 120 players...but probably not the minimum.. could be 10K for 40 players also if the score can handle it.

I have no idea where you get that 120 players number from. There are nowhere near 120 Players in a full symphony orchestra unless you are Mahler or something. 120 definitely is not a standard size and definitely NOT minimum in film scoring.

The lineup here was 3/2/2/3 - 4/3/3/1 - 3perc - 1hrp - 12/10/8/6/5 so this adds up to 66 if my math is correct. That is a bit below standard size but you wouldn't go much bigger than 85 unless you're scoring a really epic movie.

Actually, with the right orchestration and distribution of players, a smaller ensemble around 60-70 can sound much, much, bigger than an ensemble made up of 90+ people. Brian Tyler prefers using smaller, (relatively), ensembles for his scores and he still gets a huge sound out of them with little to no overdubs.

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I have no idea where you get that 120 players number from. There are nowhere near 120 Players in a full symphony orchestra unless you are Mahler or something. 120 definitely is not a standard size and definitely NOT minimum in film scoring.

The lineup here was 3/2/2/3 - 4/3/3/1 - 3perc - 1hrp - 12/10/8/6/5 so this adds up to 66 if my math is correct. That is a bit below standard size but you wouldn't go much bigger than 85 unless you're scoring a really epic movie.

i guess i was mislead, was in a workshop of some film composers where it was mentioned that in the US scorers write for 120 players since there is good budget for films in US.

i dont even think in terms of 8 players let alone 60...but at least they get twice the salary than i thought they get :p

Well, the huge blockbusters do sometimes have such numbers, but you don't need such a big orchestra to get it sounding big :) Good orchestration will make even a small ensemble sound "big", just as Andy1044 says.

For everybody interested, I wrote a small tutorial on this track describing the compositional and orchestration techniques I used in this track on my page at:

Making of “The Last Survivor” – Part I | Robin Hoffmann

All the best

Robin

excellent! i enjoyed it very much! good job sir!

It was great. Very lucky!

Wow, you really know how to drag the full potential of an live orchestra. This is just amazing...what else is there to say, you have seemed to reach the one of the highest levels in orchestral composing...wooow:sadtears: