Suite no. 1 For String orchestra

Greetings fellow young, old, middle aged, dead, whatever composers

This is my suite no 1 for strings. My father's orchestra will play it next concert with his string orchestra (There will be 5 or 6 first violins and second violins, 3 violas, 3 cellos and a bass)

I hope you enjoy. I did actually clean up my score! woohoo, right? There are 6 total movements. The piece totals in at around 11 mins.

Please comment and critique!

Thanks,

Heckel

Mvt 1:

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Mvt 2:

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Mvt 3:

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Mvt 4:

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Mvt 5:

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Mvt 6:

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your harmony is very traditional this time , i like it . add oil . my son

Thank you. But 68 views and only 1 comment?

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It's a lot to take in. I think you're on to something in Mov. II m.32-44. Movement III is interesting but the melodies make me feel a little weird. It looks like you need to get more articulations to make sure you're music is performed how you'd like it. No articulations will make your dads orchestra feel strange. If you're not going to put any articulations, you might want to give them some general directions, like detache. Movement V: I'm not a fan of those fourths everywhere but you'll have some great sonorities when a real orchestra plays this. M. 53 is awesome. M66-67 have a cool relationship you should look into.

I'm a big fan of your intuitive approach to composing.

Try squeezing three systems per page on your scores. Your dynamics are often impractical. You'll be disappointed when the string orchestra sounds really quiet. Edit this score as much as possible before it is performed, because you'll still have plenty to work on after you here it!

I wonder how old you are.

Keep exploring and take advantage of your opportunities 110%!

Wow! I can't believe you're ten. Forget everything I said. You're plenty young enough to not have lots of articulations and all that!

You must be a super talented kid and have super awesome parents!

Wow! I can't believe you're ten. Forget everything I said. You're plenty young enough to not have lots of articulations and all that!

You must be a super talented kid and have super awesome parents!

LOL. Yes, they are quite awesome :D About the articulations: I usually forget to put them in in the first place! haha. I tried to put in all the ones I thought fit in :)

Thanks for the comment!

I'm sorry, I only listened to the first movement. I'll give my comments on that, though.

Huh, yeah, taking your age into account, this is quite impressive.

In m. 11-14, do you specifically want violas playing double-stops, or is that supposed to be divisi? I get the impression that the sound you probably want is divisi, but I dunno. In other areas, like m. 22-27, double-stops do make sense for a lusher sound.

Hi,

I have a "problem" with you age when reading your postings and the language pattern displayed: you are either 10 and then you are very talented in different ways or... you have enlisted yourself here on this forum as a 10-year old, which cannot be controlled in any way, to act like the prodigeous son. In either case, I listened to the beginning of the first mouvement of your piece and it did not appeal to me: I could not figure out where it went to, neither want you wanted to do or say, I though it of an unclear and poor orchestration. Admittedly, I probably did not go beyond a part of the introduction, yet even this bit did not give me the "wow"-effect.

If your father has indeed an orchestra, you will learn a lot from having it played by them, even if it is not but a simple "read through'. Somewhere, somehow, it sounds like the Mendelsohn-story: rich father having an orchestra at his disposal for distraction, a kid who composes, the orchestra performing the pieces of the son ...

Just some thoughts ...

Hi,

I have a "problem" with you age when reading your postings and the language pattern displayed: you are either 10 and then you are very talented in different ways or... you have enlisted yourself here on this forum as a 10-year old, which cannot be controlled in any way, to act like the prodigeous son. In either case, I listened to the beginning of the first mouvement of your piece and it did not appeal to me: I could not figure out where it went to, neither want you wanted to do or say, I though it of an unclear and poor orchestration. Admittedly, I probably did not go beyond a part of the introduction, yet even this bit did not give me the "wow"-effect.

If your father has indeed an orchestra, you will learn a lot from having it played by them, even if it is not but a simple "read through'. Somewhere, somehow, it sounds like the Mendelsohn-story: rich father having an orchestra at his disposal for distraction, a kid who composes, the orchestra performing the pieces of the son ...

Just some thoughts ...

WHAT is WOW effect

Hi,

I have a "problem" with you age when reading your postings and the language pattern displayed: you are either 10 and then you are very talented in different ways or... you have enlisted yourself here on this forum as a 10-year old, which cannot be controlled in any way, to act like the prodigeous son. In either case, I listened to the beginning of the first mouvement of your piece and it did not appeal to me: I could not figure out where it went to, neither want you wanted to do or say, I though it of an unclear and poor orchestration. Admittedly, I probably did not go beyond a part of the introduction, yet even this bit did not give me the "wow"-effect.

If your father has indeed an orchestra, you will learn a lot from having it played by them, even if it is not but a simple "read through'. Somewhere, somehow, it sounds like the Mendelsohn-story: rich father having an orchestra at his disposal for distraction, a kid who composes, the orchestra performing the pieces of the son ...

Just some thoughts ...

He's ten, Don't worry. lol.

He's ten, Don't worry. lol.

Tzank you for czearing zhat up. lolz.

I just "love" how a plethora of people act like your music is just "good for your age" :\ You can roll with the best of 'em, kid. :)

I just "love" how a plethora of people act like your music is just "good for your age" :\ You can roll with the best of 'em, kid. :)

lol. I'll take what I can get, but thanks.

Heckel

You really need to learn how to make MP3's. They are not that difficult to produce and your music will be presented in a much better manner. It will also force you to think more about how your music is presented. You must become the conductor for your music.

Next, you have to put dynamics in your scores. How else are the players going to know how loud to play?

Bear in mind that this is good for a 10 year old, but you still have a long way to go before you are proficient.

Ron

Heckel

You really need to learn how to make MP3's. They are not that difficult to produce and your music will be presented in a much better manner. It will also force you to think more about how your music is presented. You must become the conductor for your music.

Next, you have to put dynamics in your scores. How else are the players going to know how loud to play?

Bear in mind that this is good for a 10 year old, but you still have a long way to go before you are proficient.

Ron

My computer does not allow me to make mp3s even with the programs I use. I do not understand that last part

Well, I usually forget this stuff. I tried to use more that usual, and it is more than usual. I might have to tell them, or I can fix it. You tell me witch to do

Thank you. That is kind

@segeofarnivillage,

Strange that a person as rolifer can get away with a comment exactly similar as mine "the music is good for a 10 year old", and that you felt the urge to make a joke of my posting.... strange, very strange...

Tzank you for czearing zhat up. lolz.

If you feel the need to make fun of my posting, go ahead.

I could put my comments in a different, a far less nicer way:

Your music sucks, that is what I think of it. The reasons why are the same I gave you in my previous posting. If your find your father willing to perform your piece: be my guest, yet ... the way it is presented here ... it sucks, utterly sucks.

Hope this suits you better... although, it does not agree with me as a person.

BG

@segeofarnivillage,

Strange that a person as rolifer can get away with a comment exactly similar as mine "the music is good for a 10 year old", and that you felt the urge to make a joke of my posting.... strange, very strange...

I wasn't making a joke of your post: I've noticed a LOT of people do that (yes, including Rolifer), and I just don't agree that it's merely good "for a ten year old." :whistling: Not that there aren't any possible improvements to be made on the scores, but that holds true for EVERY musician, right?

If you feel the need to make fun of my posting, go ahead.

I could put my comments in a different, a far less nicer way:

Your music sucks, that is what I think of it. The reasons why are the same I gave you in my previous posting. If your find your father willing to perform your piece: be my guest, yet ... the way it is presented here ... it sucks, utterly sucks.

Hope this suits you better... although, it does not agree with me as a person.

BG

No no no, he wasn't making fun of you! He was only trying to lighten things up! :O

Heckel

Bear in mind that this is good for a 10 year old, but you still have a long way to go before you are proficient.

Ron

He's right. The novelty only lasts for so long.

As someone mentioned earlier, you'll have to be very specific in your score whether you want divisi or double stops. Some of your indicated notes will be impossible as double (or triple, or quadruple) stops. I'm thinking in particular about the 6th movement where at one point you have the cellos sounding all of their open strings at once. This will have to be divisi because a cellist, and any string player really, can't bow all four strings simultaneously.

Good luck with your performance!

FMcG

As someone mentioned earlier, you'll have to be very specific in your score whether you want divisi or double stops. Some of your indicated notes will be impossible as double (or triple, or quadruple) stops. I'm thinking in particular about the 6th movement where at one point you have the cellos sounding all of their open strings at once. This will have to be divisi because a cellist, and any string player really, can't bow all four strings simultaneously.

Good luck with your performance!

FMcG

Thank you for your comment! :) The part with the cellos and all 4 strings at once I want to be rolled, for a cool effect there.

I don't care how old you are, I just really like your music. The freedom you obviously feel to build your quartal harmonies is really refreshing. Your melodies are also fresh and beautifully carefree (I mean that in a good way). And some sections of the harmony are really mature (I know I said I don't care how old you are, but I am very impressed you came up with the section from b.50 in movement 5 at the age of ten); but not only that, you seem to have an innate ability to keep your music cohesively within a single atmosphere, and even more refreshing is that it's a nice atmosphere with profound aesthetic beauty. Basically your music just sounds lovely (to my ears anyway); and I'm pleased that you are writing music because you enjoy the way it sounds (like in the 2nd (?) movement when you pile up all the 5ths).

You're obviously young and there are aspects of your composition that reflect this. But you will learn more and mature more and I'm absolutely certain that you will make a brilliant musician and composer, absolutely no doubt. I think anyone who has said otherwise is probably just a little bit jealous, dare I say it.

Finally, please do us the favour of uploading a recording of the piece when it is performed - I'd love to hear it live. Good luck for the future and keep writing. :P

I don't care how old you are, I just really like your music. The freedom you obviously feel to build your quartal harmonies is really refreshing. Your melodies are also fresh and beautifully carefree (I mean that in a good way). And some sections of the harmony are really mature (I know I said I don't care how old you are, but I am very impressed you came up with the section from b.50 in movement 5 at the age of ten); but not only that, you seem to have an innate ability to keep your music cohesively within a single atmosphere, and even more refreshing is that it's a nice atmosphere with profound aesthetic beauty. Basically your music just sounds lovely (to my ears anyway); and I'm pleased that you are writing music because you enjoy the way it sounds (like in the 2nd (?) movement when you pile up all the 5ths).

You're obviously young and there are aspects of your composition that reflect this. But you will learn more and mature more and I'm absolutely certain that you will make a brilliant musician and composer, absolutely no doubt. I think anyone who has said otherwise is probably just a little bit jealous, dare I say it.

Finally, please do us the favour of uploading a recording of the piece when it is performed - I'd love to hear it live. Good luck for the future and keep writing. :P

THANK YOU!!! :w00t: cooool...really cool :cool:

I enjoyed this suite on the whole. Your frequent use of fifths and fourths will often have a very rich sound as played by an actual ensemble. As a matter of personal opinion I would, however, caution you to not venture quite as far from more conventional tonality. For example, Mov't II is extremely dissonant; dissonance can be used to brilliant effect, but it is most effective and meaningful when it is in a rather tonal setting (feel free to disagree with me on this though). I won't offer any further critique, as much of what I would say has already been said above. I will of course encourage you to keep on composing though. I look forward to seeing what you turn out in the future.

-Max