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Here is my first orchestral composition, hope you will enjoy it

I used EWQL SO Silver in Nuendo 3

http://www.box.net/shared/l7v5zb7sly

I can't get either link to work.

You could try putting the intro with the choir at the middle as a kind of diminuendo. Also I think all that comes after, lets call that part A, sounds more like the climax so I'd try do this:


  • A-part, not as heavily orchestrated

  • The choir "intro" as a contrasting part

  • A-part, somewhat more orchestrated, with a change of instrumental color.

  • A-part, pretty much the way you have it already

then you could either settle with the ending you got for a "dramatic" ending or have the first A-part again as a kind of round-up of the piece if you would want it to end a bit more calm/mysterious.

Edit: Oh, forgot to say that I think your work was nice. :)

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j.hall

Thanks for your advice, appreciate that!

But I still want to hear some critics about volume levels of parts, panning, instruments selection etc.

P.S. reuploaded on box.net

Hi Marat!

Since you're looking for production comments, I'll give you some of those instead of focusing on the musicality.

First off, I'm not sure where your choir is standing but it sounds really close.....like in front of the orchestra. Usually they stand at the back, so you might want to push them further in the mix. The biggest problem you have so far is that you haven't spent enough time fiddling with the MIDI sequencing to get it sounding more "human". This is especially evident in that string figure that repeats....sounds the same every time. Vary up the attacks and timings a bit for some variety. The lead brass lines are also very static in terms of attacks, but that's also a limitation of the library, so work around it as best as you can.

One last thing: where's your woodwind section? I know many modern scores sort of forget about the woodwind section, but it's extremely useful and shouldn't be neglected.

Otherwise a solid piece! Keep working on getting it to sound more realistic by spending more time working on the individual MIDI events. If you listen to a real orchestra and hear how they produce certain lines, you can better understand how to replicate it with samples.

Good work, thanks for sharing!

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Marius

Thanks for your comment! I'll try to fix that!

Btw, do you mean quantize attacks and timings?

I mean specifically do NOT quantize — that's what makes it sound mechanical. A real orchestra is never precisely in time and tune all the time; it's the little imperfections that give it its richness of sound.

and dont be so damn gentle with the drums!!! dont make them sound like they're from a keyboard!

it is a good trying, with those filling harps, and some strong melody in the middle.

mix should be a whole lot different, the bass frequency is almost absent.

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The J

thanks, already pumped up timpani, currently working on basses

actually I played all the tracks on keyboard and recorded that

Later... Uploaded improved mix (the structure is the same)

j.hall

Thanks for your advice, appreciate that!

But I still want to hear some critics about volume levels of parts, panning, instruments selection etc.

P.S. reuploaded on box.net

Ah okay, if there's something I suck at it's digital production. Hopefully I'll get around to attending a class in it someday. I hope my suggestions were of any use though. :)

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