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Do you like atonal music ?  

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  1. 1. Do you like atonal music ?

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All of the well-done atonal music were composed by those who are dead. Atonal music today is absolutely terrible.

Nico, you compose 45748732945739573 times better than any composition professor out there because they all learn music, but since they're idiots, they write today's atonal music, which is idiotic but everyone in the professional business seems to respect.

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I'm not a fan of atonal music and here's why. I completely enjoy and understand all the intellectual stuff of atonal music. In fact, atonal music helps to open up your understanding about options for develpment and note treatment. But what it sounds like is where the problem is? It's one thing to be doing new and forward things, but I think there's something to be said about music that comes across as "ugly" to so many.

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Nico, you compose 45748732945739573 times better than any composition professor out there because they all learn music, but since they're idiots, they write today's atonal music, which is idiotic but everyone in the professional business seems to respect.

What a stupid statement.

Im sorry, I had to say this

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Nico, you compose 45748732945739573 times better than any composition professor out there because they all learn music, but since they're idiots, they write today's atonal music, which is idiotic but everyone in the professional business seems to respect.

This is the kid who cries tears of happiness when he hears Ravel's Bolero. I rest my case.

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Ah, sorry. When someone says they second something, it means they agree. It's generally used in voting and business matters. Sorry, didn't take into consideration you may not know what I meant.

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It IS diverse. Schoenberg's op.25 is a lot different than Penderecki's St. Luke Passion. They are both atonal, but in very different ways.

I don't know how to define atonality - however I can hear it quite easily. And my ability to recognize it has gotten better. I used to not be able to tell extended tonality from atonality.

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Well, the most exact definition is music without a tonal center. No Key of ________. The harmony therefore is "non-functional" since it is not enslaved to V-I relationships. There are many atonal techniques, the most infamous of which is probably serialism, or 12-tone music.

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What exactly is a tonal center? Does it have to be one note? What about a piece that is constantly modulating and doesn't give preference to a single pitch. The Prelude from Tistan und Isolde doesn't sound atonal at all to me, but I know that it certainly doesn't have a traditional tonal center.

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Tristan and Isolde kind of walks the line. The point is that it doesn't resolve ti "I" until the end of the Liebestod, and that is used as symbolism for longing. But it has moments that at least suggest tonality. Basically if you are listening to a piece of music and try to whistle "tonic" that's the test. If you can sing a "home tone" (not just the chord root or bass) it's tonal. If not, then it's atonal. Of course other pieces challenge that. Debussy's music often uses non-functional harmony but has "forced" tonal centers due to ostinati and pedal tones.

Hope that helps.

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