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Song without words In E minor

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This is one of my Songs without words.

This piece was written for piano and violin and it's in E minor.

I wrote the piece originaly for solo piano , it's very fun piece to play.

I decided to make a chamber version and added the violin.

Remember to right click the link and choose "Save target as" .

Best Wishes,

Saul

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/saulsmusic/Song%20Without%20Words%20In%20E%20No.2%20Piano&Violin.mp3

I like it. I think you could even make this into a quintet for strings and piano with very little effort and that would help to expand the voice.

The link doesn't work.

Doesn't work for me either...

Guys, the link works for me.

Are you using any kind of firewall of shorts? zone alarm etc? This could create some problem maybe...

nope, doesn't work for me either.

neither "save link target" nor clicking on link.

It doesn't work because FreeWebs disallows hotlinking. Contrary to what Nikolas said, some firewalls may actually help you to get around this problem. ;)

If you copy and paste the URL into your browser's address bar, you may have more luck.

Yes, that way the link works, thanks!

Now, let's see,

that's a very enjoyable and flowing piece of music, if a bit unoriginal, in my opinion.

Excellent interchange between the violin and the piano.

Lovely piano accompaniment.

Try to take the time to post a score, please.

The addition of the violin contributes a lot to the singing nature of the piece. I wouldn't have liked this piece performed by a piano quintet, as suggested previously.

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Yes, that way the link works, thanks!

Now, let's see,

that's a very enjoyable and flowing piece of music, if a bit unoriginal, in my opinion.

Excellent interchange between the violin and the piano.

Lovely piano accompaniment.

Try to take the time to post a score, please.

The addition of the violin contributes a lot to the singing nature of the piece. I wouldn't have liked this piece performed by a piano quintet, as suggested previously.

Thanks for listening, glad you found the piece enjoyable.

What did you mean by unoriginal? explain please.

I too would like to keep it as a 2 instrument work, the interchange of melodies works very well this way in this particular work.

Thanks for your comments.

Here is the score:

Song without Words In E minor Saul Dzorelashvili.MUS

You meant for this piece to be in 6/8 or 12/8 time when it's 4/4 currently.

I think it would add to the piece if you changed up the melody a little or added something unexpected. The same sing-songy pattern gets a little old after a while.

In my opinion you should give the violin some more stuff, I mean, a lot of the time it's just doubling the piano part. But I really liked it. Great job.

What did you mean by unoriginal? explain please.

I have heard a lot of similar compositions. I can't quite place it, but it had a certain Greco-hungarian-slavonic feel to it, with which I am very familiar. So the piece seemed very predictable to me.

I'm a pianist so of course I'm going to comment on the piano part.

The left hand of the piano just... drove me crazy. I dunno man, I'm not dissing your piece. I'm just saying I wasn't very fond of those fast repeated chords in the left hand. Otherwise it was fun to listen to!

I also agree with Rafn, absolutely a 12/8 composition in my eyes... at least for the majority of it.

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I have heard a lot of similar compositions. I can't quite place it, but it had a certain Greco-hungarian-slavonic feel to it, with which I am very familiar. So the piece seemed very predictable to me.

You mean like folk a song?

Maybe because I was born in eastern europe....

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You mean like folk a song?

There's a new term

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I meant like a folk song.

Thanks for pointing that out.

This shouldn't be for two instruments. The violin is just doubling the right hand of the piano and ocassionally playing the same passage at a different interval.

Before you try seriously tackling music, you would do well to take some time and study harmony. Write under a controlled environment, giving yourself very little freedom to learn the fundamentals. Learn your voice leading through chorale settings. Learn your harmony, especially your extended, non-diatonic harmonies. Learn how to take a motive and construct a melody out of it. Learn how to develop your motive instead of creating sequences. Learn how to write for multiple instruments instead of repeating blocks on a different instrument. Performed live, this would be incredibly hollow and get boring after the first 30 seconds. This piece, in my opinion, is about 50 measures too long, and, once again, should be written for solo piano.

As far as layout goes, you should resize your music so more than 2 measures appear on a system.

Also, as far as folk flavorings go, if you want to learn how to write utilizing folk melodies, study Bartok or Dvorak for influence.

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This shouldn't be for two instruments. The violin is just doubling the right hand of the piano and ocassionally playing the same passage at a different interval.

Before you try seriously tackling music, you would do well to take some time and study harmony. Write under a controlled environment, giving yourself very little freedom to learn the fundamentals. Learn your voice leading through chorale settings. Learn your harmony, especially your extended, non-diatonic harmonies. Learn how to take a motive and construct a melody out of it. Learn how to develop your motive instead of creating sequences. Learn how to write for multiple instruments instead of repeating blocks on a different instrument. Performed live, this would be incredibly hollow and get boring after the first 30 seconds. This piece, in my opinion, is about 50 measures too long, and, once again, should be written for solo piano.

As far as layout goes, you should resize your music so more than 2 measures appear on a system.

Also, as far as folk flavorings go, if you want to learn how to write utilizing folk melodies, study Bartok or Dvorak for influence.

Thanks for these suggestions.. though I dont agree or intend to listen to all of them but willing to give consideration to a few.

How about you?

Do you have any music for us to listen and comment on?

Cheers,

Saul

Yes, I do. My last three pieces are posted in this forum. Search for "Circle Of Friends", "American Folk Tale", and "String Trio, First Movement". I'm not going to provide links because that would be a whorish thing to do.

I don't mean to follow all of your threads and comment, by the way. Unfortunately, though, you remind me of (the late) Nico. You don't seem to take the suggestions of others to heart, which confuses me, since you post your music for analysis and review. You have a sense of melody and harmony, which is a very good thing, but your compositional style is, unfortunately, somewhat immature. Rather than embellish a motive, you repeat it until it becomes nausiating, and then switch to something new. You write parallel perfect intervals. You write unplayable, non-idiomatic music. You write without specific regard to the nuances of the instruments performing the pieces. These are things that need to be fixed, desperately, because they're all tantamount to horrible performance habits. Imagine if you played piano with a rigid wrist, stiff arms, a hunched back, one foot in the air, one shoulder lifted, and unflexible fingers. Not only would it affect your sound, it would eventually kill your performance career. Using these bad compositional habits that you've developed, you're keeping the essense of your sound and your spirit from really being heard, since all we hear instead are all the beginner's mistakes, and, eventually, we're going to stop listening alltogether.

You mean like folk a song?

Maybe because I was born in eastern europe....

Ooops, I forgot to answer you. Yes, that's what I mean.

Born in eastern Europe...! This is apparent in your music.

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