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PeterthePapercomPoser replied to Layne's topic in Orchestral and Large Ensemble
Hey @Layne! Very tense track/cue you've concocted! I noticed that you're using col legno/with the wood of the bow in the melody of the strings. I could be wrong, but it doesn't sound practical/idiomatic for the strings to bounce the wood of their bows off their strings as quickly as you require them to in the melody here. The col legno technique, if I understand correctly, is quite an unwieldy technique on the Violin and is difficult to execute with metronomic precision which is why you'll often hear orchestras struggle with staying together when playing col legno rhythms. But other than that I like the mood/vibe of this piece! Great job and thanks for sharing! -
First Counterpoint Attempt (plus score feedback)
PeterthePapercomPoser replied to guy500's topic in Chamber Music
Hi @guy500! Your music is very chromatic and richly tonal! It visits so many different key centers that they're difficult to count. Unfortunately, it's because of this that giving you advice about your score would be very difficult, as the constant changes in key make your chromaticism difficult to navigate. It's hard to give the proper enharmonic spellings of notes specific and unique to each given harmonic situation when the whole system is flawed in the first place. For example, if your tonal center is C# (as in measure 110) then you should use sharps instead of flats to express all your scale degrees (such as the Eb in measure 110 - should be D#). If you're in C# minor then this is easier, with only 4 sharps in the key signature (C#, D#, F# and G#), but if you're in the major mode there's 3 more sharps (E#, A# and B#) which is also why your F in measure 111 should be an E#. This is just a small taste of the meticulousness that it would take to clean up your score and make it readable by an actual choir. Another musical quirk you seem to have (or perhaps it's a result of working in a DAW/Cubase) is that your phrases are rarely connected and song-like/lyrical. They are constantly interrupted by what in my opinion are unnecessary rests that break the flow of the music. Of course, it would also be unusual if the, on the flip side, the choir sang constantly without any room to breathe. Btw - in order to be able to listen to your music on Soundcloud, I had to go through an annoying process of creating an account, which I never had to do before. Has Soundcloud recently changed or something? I think it would be way more convenient if in the future you just uploaded your mp3's here to each post you make. Thanks for sharing this piece! -
Hi again @Fugax Contrapunctus! It's quite an interesting idea! I know you're working with strict tone rows to have produced this, but my ear cries out for some 8th note or 16th note motion in this to relieve from the constant barrage of quarter notes. I actually like the piano version a bit more than the string quartet because the tempo is a bit slower and allows the ear to absorb the harmonies more. The ending is also unusual and breaks away from the pattern established in the beginning and is more interesting because of that. Thanks for sharing!
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Fughetta in C-sharp minor.
PeterthePapercomPoser replied to Fugax Contrapunctus's topic in Piano Music, Solo Keyboard
Hey @Fugax Contrapunctus! It's great to hear that some old juvenilia of yours can be rescued from oblivion and made somewhat acceptable after you've now gained some more skill! In my opinion, it does still lack some space and comes across as somewhat robotic and mechanical with the constant barrage of 16th notes, but I don't think I can say that about your more recent works anymore. Thanks for sharing this fugue! - Yesterday
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Joke in A-flat major
PeterthePapercomPoser replied to Henry Ng Tsz Kiu's topic in Piano Music, Solo Keyboard
Hey @Henry Ng Tsz Kiu! The middle section in F major is my favorite and probably, the most musically and harmonically interesting part imo. It's great that you manage to satisfy both a sophisticated formal structure while having humor with it. Thanks for sharing! -
Hi @Alant! Hi! For some reason, even though this is not a rag, it reminds me of The Spinach Rag from Final Fantasy VI. This has a very unique approach to both harmony and rhythm which gives it a very individualized, custom feel that's not found in many others works. But in it's current form, I think it is more like an experiment/idea rather than a finished piece. Have you thought of adding a slow section in the middle to create a ternary form? It would be interesting what kind of fun meters and rhythms you could come up with in a slow, lyrical contrasting section! Thanks for sharing!
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The Old Automobile Rag
PeterthePapercomPoser replied to user011235's topic in Piano Music, Solo Keyboard
Hi @user011235! I like this rag! I was actually surprised to hear the 16th notes in this swung. I had to look up whether rags were ever swung or not because the ones I was familiar with were played straight. But it turns out that later rags, after 1920 did in fact incorporate swing time into them even if sometimes only in the right hand syncopations. Great rag though! Makes me think of this Simpsons clip: LoL!! Thanks for sharing. -
Henry Ng Tsz Kiu started following Orchestration of "Character Select Screen" by @gaspard
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chopin started following Orchestration of "Character Select Screen" by @gaspard
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So cool hearing both versions side by side. Same melody and overall song, but very different outputs. In the original, I feel like the music is very precise with high articulation. But the orchestral version, I can hear the harmonies and chord changes much more clearly. It may have to do with how the orchestral instruments can hold notes. Very nice rendition!
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PeterthePapercomPoser started following Orchestration of "Character Select Screen" by @gaspard
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@gaspard has asked me to orchestrate another one of his Clavichord pieces and I was happy to oblige! You can view his YouTube video here: Character Select Screen And you can view his score here: It took me about 8 days to do this orchestration and I am presenting here two versions - one that repeats the piece from the beginning and one that doesn't. I hope you enjoy and I'd love to hear any critiques, comments, suggestion or just observations that you may have! This is the 2nd time that I've orchestrated one of @gaspard's Clavichord pieces.
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user011235 started following Unfinished C major project
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Unfinished C major project
user011235 replied to Alant's topic in Incomplete Works; Writer's Block and Suggestions
Hey @Alant! I like this a lot. It does sound like it could be the soundtrack to a chill video game. I actually think a mixture of instruments would be favorable! I preferred the deepness of the bass in the first version, that was really nice, though i like a lot of the new stuff in the second version too. You could combine them. As for ideas for what could come next, if it were me, i might do a pause followed by a big tutti g chord, and then continue in G major. And maybe do some inversion and retrograde with the motifs you have? -
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Unfinished C major project
Alant replied to Alant's topic in Incomplete Works; Writer's Block and Suggestions
Here is an extended and better arranged version of the piece. Feedback on the composition and instrumentation (maybe it would be better off just using synth instruments?) is appreciated -
@David_DLM Hey, thanks so much for the kind words!
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PeterthePapercomPoser started following Hand in the SKy - 2 new tracks for you guys!
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Waff started following Hand in the SKy - 2 new tracks for you guys!
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https://youtu.be/9C14iTBm3z0 first track is calry! second track - lana! https://youtu.be/q-XmSZtvxt4 would like to know what poeple think about the mix and the song wirting material! tahnks! - Nikkol.
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PeterthePapercomPoser started following Lo, the full, final sacrifice (Finzi) orchestration
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Lo, the full, final sacrifice (Finzi) orchestration
develop331 replied to develop331's topic in Orchestral and Large Ensemble
To those who have not had the pleasure of listening to the original, here is the score https://bnf.cn2.imslp.org/files/imglnks/caimg/a/a2/IMSLP903191-PMLP1420925-Finzi_-_Lo%2C_the_full%2C_final_sacrifice.pdf and it can be found widely on youtube, but my favourite performance is -
FFS orchestrated.pdf FFS orchestrated.mp3 Hello all, as a church singer I don't really get to interact with the orchestra too often but given that corpus christi is coming up I decided to orchestrate Finzi's Lo, the Full, Final Sacrifice as my first proper orchestral work. I literally just picked the basic orchestra template and filled it out based on the organ part, but I think it came along quite nicely. I'm also kinda broke (I spent most of my money on one of their organ sounds which was a good investment imo) so I don't have fancy software or sounds so it's literally just the free musesounds... the choir playback has been pretty scraggy recently, and they also happened to have recently published a paid choir soundpack - coincidence? Once again this is my first proper orchestral work so some feedback/advice would be very nice!! -develop331, and sorry to the flutes
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Hi to all. I've recently revisited this work to create a more accurate mock-up, and just wondered if I could get some tips on my stereo panning and mixing/mastering. It's all be created in MuseScore, with some of the extended instrument libraries from Spitfire, Berlin and Cinesamples. The score is designed for MIDI mock-up only. I tried to pan the instruments to roughly where they would be in a real orchestra, though I'm not sure I like having the high strings ranged left and the low strings right.
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Just check this out and would like to give an update: after my professor listened to the entire 2nd movement he told me that he thought the piece very powerful, solemn and sacred, and even though my dedicatee is already living in heaven now, he would be very proud and touched listening the whole piece. I remembered when I checked out his message my tears fell down immediately and they are unstoppable. That’s the first time he ever complimented my piece haha. Henry
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Hi @mercurypickles! Lovely pair of songs, the first one lyrical and second one pastoral, especially with the oboe sounding lol! I really like your modulation to Eb major in the second song, it’s like quoting material from the 1st song to the 2nd song. However I would say the interlude is a bit too long for me, maybe for me I will shorten it. Thx for sharing! Henry
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'Poème': a 30-second hommage to Scriabin
Henry Ng Tsz Kiu replied to 林家興's topic in Piano Music, Solo Keyboard
Hi! I agree it’s Scriabin like, and what I like most is how coherent you write with motives even in a short time span. Thx for sharing! Henry -
Hello @Alant! Like @Thatguy v2.0said I like the 5/4 waltz, not very commonly found as in the 2nd mov of Tchaikovsky’s Pathetique. I agree with him too you can develop the piece to a longer one. I love the time signature changes you make after the opening bars! The C natural in b.11 gives a mixolydian feeling which I like as well Beware of those F naturals, as they should be written as E sharps since they resolve upward as a lower chromatic auxilary to F sharp. Thx for sharing! Henry
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Hey! I loved the upbeat pace and the charming, animated energy. Such a fun listen! Great rag, and great work capturing that classic cartoon feel!
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Thanks @Henry Ng Tsz Kiu! I'll have to check some of those rags of his
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Thank you for your like! The lead singer is me, and there are other singers singing along with me. 谢谢你的喜欢!主唱是我,还有其他歌手为我伴唱。
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Hey @ferrum.wav! I feel really surprised and honoured that you quote my theme in the Image, I love your usage here! I do think the theme fits well here, though in a more playful mood which reminds me of Alice in the Wonderland haha. This is the first time my theme got quoted and honestly it feels wonderful haha. Your modulations and chord progressions sound wonderful and fantastic, also those occasional playful syncopated rhythms fits the atmosphere well! The orchestration is something I have to learn from. Thx for sharing! Henry
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Hey @Fugax Contrapunctus! I really really love those suspensions you have in the whole music, it even includes a suspension of false relations in b.5! It reminds me the opening Kyrie of the Mass in B minor in some way, maybe because of its five voice distribution. Thx for sharing! Henry
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