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Welcome to forum, what instrument(s) have you been playing?

I remember it's high B?

The YCF chocolate looks really yummy!

@BipolarComposer Hello, perhaps I didn’t explain myself clearly. I didn’t mean that the register is too high for the bassoon in that passage, but rather that in such high passages, the part is usually written in tenor clef.

Mozart also did it in the Marriage of Figaro overture. Around measure 217 (my score of that doesn’t have measure numbers so I might have missed counted) with the Bassoon playing the melody, up to a high G at piano.

Hello @Mango ! Welcome! I think if you really want to just try the genre you can write a basic beginner's concerto based on some specific technique that you know beginner cellists learn. Look at some scores of existing cello pieces or concerti or watch YouTube demonstrations of cello techniques and use those techniques to build a basic melodic motif that you'll use in your concerto. That's how I would approach it! Great question!

Yes, he did!

Hi @Mango , Welcome to the forum! Why don't you write a concerto for an instrument you are familiar with? Writing a concerto requires a more thorough understanding of the solo instrument to allow an idiomatic and virtuosic display of the instrument. Maybe you can start with a cello sonata first? That would really help you know more about the instrument before using it in a more virtuosic setting with an orchestral background. Henry

I am trying to write a cello concerto but I do not know how to play the cello

Also for @Luis Hernández bringing up the instrumental issue, I think Stravinsky intentionally used the high register of Bassoon for that nasal timbre, which works really well for being the “Augurs” of spring in the introduction and for later movement. I think Stravinsky works really well there. I don't think it's hard for Bassoonist to play mp in high register, since in the high register it’s easier for them to play mp than f, given the nature of double reed instruments (same for oboe and cor anglais.) Henry

As promised yesterday, here is the YouTube-video of the piece which I suggest to watch, since it automatically pages thru the score (sorry for the advertisement). For more background, here are a few YouTube-links with scenes from the Berlin S-Bahn in the 1980s which are characteristic for that time and have inspired me for the A-part of the piece: Scene on the platform, closing the doors and departure of the train: https://youtu.be/F-oexAoylmI?t=1461 „With a jolt, the train starts moving.“ … „The train is passing a railroad crossing.“ https://youtu.be/F-oexAoylmI?t=736 „The train stops and makes its typical hissing sound when the compressed air escapes.“ https://youtu.be/F-oexAoylmI?t=486 As a kind of „non-AI proof“ I also attached my „working score“ from which the MIDI is generated. It is nearly unreadable and of cause not intended for playing but shows in detail all dynamics, articulations, agogics etc. I applied to achieve the final recording. Finally, there is an audio of the „concerto“ by a number of nightingales in a park I recorded in April 2025. Nightingales-in-Berlin.mp3 WORKING-SCORE-P17.pdf

Ah yes...the infamous bassoon passage form the rite of spring. That did not go well.

For the Bassoon, I get your point, however, in the Rite of Spring, Stravinsky has the Bassoon start on a high F at mezzo-piano and in the “Kiss of the Earth” section, he has it hold a high E for three measures at piano. So, it is possible.

Candlelit Catacomb Ball

Entry: City rail and Nightingale Melodies Themes Motives Harmony Chords Textures Form Development Structure Time Originality Creativity Score Presentation Instrumentation Orchestration Playability Execution of Given Challenge Taste 8 9 10 10 5 6 8 8 Average Score: 8 Review: I definitely could hear the imagine you were trying to capture in this piece.

Dear fellow composers, I’m pleased to present you today my submission to the YCF 2026 Spring Competition! Here is the picture showing a historic city rail (S-Bahn) train and a nightingale capturing the sounds of spring in Berlin. The idea behind the piece is to describe the contrast between the noise of the big city and the tranquility of nature. I know that some of you, especially if you’re from Asia or the U.S. will smile when I refer to a city with not even 4 million inhabitants as a “big city.” And yes, that’s actually the case: Berlin is indeed a “huge village” with a surprising number of green and quiet areas. The piece tells the story of a journey with the city rail from the crowded city center to a suburb where are allotment garden communities are located. Since modern trains are more or less „sterile“ and lack their unique sound, I imagined taking this trip on a historic train, like the ones that ran in Berlin from the 1920s through the 1990s and were known for their characteristic noises, such as the slamming of doors and the typical hissing sound when compressed air escapes. Once you’ve arrived in the suburbs—so the story goes—you leave the station and head to the allotment garden complex. As you stroll along the garden paths, you’re surprised to notice nightingales giving their evening concert. And yes, it’s actually true that throughout Berlin, from April through June, you can hear many nightingales every evening and every night. The nightingales are really loud and have a distinctive song, so I’m very surprised that there are so many people who tell me they’ve never heard a nightingale before. The piece is a string quintet featuring a violin, a viola, and a cello, accompanied by two pianos. I have decided to use two pianos so that they can share the extensive tremolo and trill passages, which improves playability. It has an A–B–A form, with the A sections representing the S-Bahn ride. I’ve chosen the unusual 13/16 time signature—initially as a challenge to myself— but while working on it, I realized that the 13/16 time signature can be considered as a compound meter of 3 + 4 + 6, which evokes the idea of acceleration (of the train), and, when reversed to 6 + 4 + 3, that of deceleration (as the train enters the station). The B-part is in 12/8 time signature with a lovely, lulling siciliano rhythm, thus emphasizing the calm scenario while walking through the gardens. I hope you’ll enjoy the piece as much as I enjoyed working on it (although I somewhat underestimated the effort needed …). The YouTube video is coming soon. Thus, stay tuned! Praeludium-XVII-A-flat-major-quintet-mix.mp3 Praeludium-XVII-A-flat-major-quintet-with-coversheet.pdf

@Luis Hernández is historically correct. the romantics drew from the previous composers and reinvited it.

A Grand and Ghastly Meal in Tartarus Version IX:

Check this puppy out. Very pleased with it indeed.

@setpad2 Thank you for providing us the scores for your three-movement sonata! MV1: I appreciate the creativity within this movement. When someone usually thinks what "sonata" is, they associate that with classic recipe that. But you demonstrated to us how you can violate the listener expectations--both tonally and structurally--on what sonata is. With the high sense of chromaticism, this can be easily atonal. I am not sure if that was what your goal. But, if it was, excellent job. Since the movement broke the proper mold of tradition form, it was a challenge for me to review it. I did hear some reoccurring ideas (motives). The only thing that stuck to me was the large, rolled chords. I think that texture does not fit with in scheme of the movement. MV2: My only concern here is the bass rolled chords! A better texture is broken chords between the staffs. You will get a similar effect and it look cleaner. Final MV This is great first start on final movement. If you want to learn, I am more than glad to suggest books. But remember, reading books is only step one. Score study and finding your voice is step two and three.

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im late sry, i lost my acc opus 4 - 3 N.pdf opus 4 - 1 N.pdf opus 4 - 2 N.pdf

Updated the above post with some more canon-fugues based on J. S. Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier. Listen and enjoy.

Four Canon-Fugues using fugues from J. S. Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier