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  2. Hello! Interesting piece to have listened to. I must apologize now as I have some comments and in an effort to stay concise, I will be blunt. Here are my thoughts: (view on PC if able, not mobile) Double check the alignment of your diminuendos and crescendos. To me, it casts the illusion that the score is a little unpolished: With the slur groupings (two-note slurs), was it your intention to make it an ensemble feature? I saw some spots that have two-note slurs in one instrument, but not the others, even when the gestures feels the same: Measures 2 and 6 (in cello) as one example. Last thing would be dynamics themselves. If cello is the main feature, I think it a little asymmetrical to have the violin 1 be a dynamic marking louder than the melody. Shouldn't the cello be the loudest voice when presenting the melody? With the tempo markings, I think it looks better and easier to read when the text is a font size or two bigger or in bold. As a performer, it helps visually distinct the two text field types. Last few picky things would be measures 8,14 and 21. Why not just use a half rest for the other voices on beats 3-4? For the ending 4-bars, why not write "Sempre diminuendo" meaning "Always Diminishing" or "Morendo" to imply "dying away". Your pianissimo to Niente dynamic is a little messy with the spacing not consistent between all instruments. Final thing is to double check/ update is the idea of adding copyright information and a subtitle to say "for String Orchestra" or "for String Quartet". This helps as on first look of the score, the ensemble size is not mentioned. Good work!
  3. Today
  4. I'd never written for concert band before, however, that's the only ensemble, aside from one performance, that I've ever rehearsed and performed a production within... So I am very familiar with how the instrumentation is utilized in concert band scores. This was inspired by some work from another collegue of mine, that with their permission, I was allowed to put my own "twist" on it, and it is very very far from it's original form... I suppose that makes it more original than arrangement, but ah. I can't take all the credit for it if I didn't conjure it up myself from scratch. It's very short, and I didn't really have any intent on developing it into a more lengthy, complete piece, despite my desire to do so... I think it's quite extravigant, triumphant and reminds me of a hopeful feeling. I suppose the idea is that it can be used, potentially as an opener piece for a band somewhere, somehow. lol Let me know what y'all think P.S. Yes, I know there are a couple of engraving errors, such as Dynamic marking placements for example. The score isn’t a polished and finished product, 100% as of right now. Just an FYI 😅 Thanks!! -Unc whatliesahead.pdf WhatLiesAhead.mp3
  5. This is a short thing I wrote in one day, perhaps a bit self-indulgently expressing my rather, shall we say... mixed... feelings right now about my country as we near the 250th anniversary of independence. The cellos play the melody of "America the Beautiful" while the violins and violas add harmonies that subvert the simple tune. As always, any comments or feedback would be appreciated! Semiquincentennial.mp3 Semiquincentennial.pdf
  6. @Alex Weidmann Thank you for listening. Yes, the piano version is very different – more ‘intimate’, perhaps? – despite that crescendo. I was in no doubt that the brass section was meant for that part... When I orchestrate something that already exists (for piano, generally speaking), I have two options: 1) to be as faithful as possible, which in some cases is almost essential, 2) to recreate the piece for the orchestra. In this case, it usually turns out quite differently.
  7. Hello, This modified version flows very naturally and feels more balanced. I also like the fact that the transitions between sections are smooth.
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  9. Ah, I see. (I thought Frank Bridge was a landmark; which I hadn't looked up yet. Ha!) Regardless, you brought Britten's advisor's piano music to life. Your rendition of it is quite stunning; and does invoke the urban late night mood as for-mentioned. And, the second portion of my post (regarding difficulty of percussion part) still stands.
  10. Yesterday
  11. To highlight a few key differences between either piece, in Chopin's prelude the melodic contour seeks minimalism in a way that balances out the listener's focus and allows the left-hand chords to shine and be heard more clearly. However, in my composition, the melody is most of the time merely a product of the top line of the right-hand chords and while it does produce a distinctive effect due to the rhythmic motif and its characteristic contiguously rising and falling eighth note in the 4th beat of its initial measure, it is not a sufficiently distinctive part to be considered, in my view, integrally alienable from the lower voices or the right-hand chord progression as a whole. Well, some earlier pieces of mine, composed almost exclusively for piano specifically, were mostly focused on styles closer to that of this composition than those of my usual production, such as in this post: https://www.youngcomposers.com/t44435/triwaltzia-no-1 You're correct in pointing out the deviation from my usual style with heavy counterpoint. The title, however, was not actually a strict or entirely accurate stylistic descriptor, and instead it purely serves as an indicator of a particular style I sought to emulate from the Romantic era. It obviously does not account for the entire range of styles and genres that this period in the history of Western classical tradition has to offer, but instead builds an association based on the "vibes" of the music, if I may use such a term. I especially agree with your first line of criticsm: the constant reiteration of the same rhythmic motif ending up producing a far too monotonous, repetitive or boring impression was indeed a concern even before this piece was finished. However, every time I tried to vary the rhythms or change the bass, it felt jarringly sudden and unexpected, breaking pattern in a way that not only was far from subtle, but also completely imbalanced considering the listener's expectations after the first couple phrases. Adding a contrasting B section with an entirely different theme might have solved the issue, but I failed to execute such an option in time before the whole piece was nearly complete. The density of the chords doesn't concern me nearly that much. Reducing the number of internal voices in the middle sections seemed to create the same unexpected vacuum I just described, so as long it doesn't get in the way of the dynamic contrast across the piece I personally see no problem with it, since I'm certain any sufficiently skilled pianist would be able to perform those in spite of the uniform chord density throughout. I'm interpreting what you mean by the bass being "underused" as not providing sufficient rhyhtmic or schematic variety, which could just as easily be referring to the right hand chords, just as in your first point. As for the arpeggios, I disagree with the premise that it is merely an effect: it is integral to the motif across the whole composition. I do understand what you actually mean by that, however: it once again comes back to the original line of criticism. The bars you mentioned were unplayable without additional arpeggios merely included a major 9th and 10th. The 10th in question has been edited to an octave for easier performance with a smaller handspan, even though it is still arpeggiated. However, that doesn't solve the rest of the 10th in the 2nd beat of each measure in that sequence, so sorry in advance to pianists with smaller hands: I must admit feasible playability is still not my main priority (ah, what would I do without the wonders of modern technology...) Anyway, thank you kindly for your review and points of criticism. I will most likely take them into careful consideration when setting myself to write compositions similar to this one.
  12. Hi, many thanks for the kind words, and thoughtful review. Frank Bridge is actually the composer. (Don't worry, I hadn't heard of him either until very recently!) This is my orchestration of his 3 movement piano work "The Hour Glass". (You can find the other 2 movements lower down in the Orchestral and Large Ensemble category.) Far as I know, it's never been orchestrated before. Frank was a British composer (1879-1941), who mentored the young Benjamin Britten. I think the main issue with the marimba part is whether you can actually physically get round the instrument to play those octave movements at this tempo. And also whether you can find an extra large marimba (and vibraphone) to cover the pitch range required. I'm thinking I'll probably rework those passages so they fall into a narrower range. I've heard those stories about orchestras not taking student works seriously; but what can you do?
  13. Thank you for your review. I should point out, however, that the chorus is intended to sound louder in order for the lyrics to be at the very least audible and not drowned by the orchestra, let alone trying to make them sound barely intelligible. I find it optimal since the choir is singing the canon in th exact same configuration as the other instrumental sections: the placement of the voices across different lines and registers is the exact same for all three. And also, there is no brass in the score or audio. This is not intended as a symphonic orchestral arrangement, and I personally dislike the timbre of brass instruments and even some woodwinds such as the saxophone for example, so they are not getting included in the score anytime soon. Have a nice day.
  14. I'm wondering greatly why this piece did not receive any feedback (let alone positive and encouragingly complimentary feedback), even after 3 weeks and more. I absolutely love many elements that have been used in this score: Use of melodic Caliope (Baritone woodwinds, Soprano Strings) background call-and-response (alternating between Violone and Violin/Violinone) moment of introductory climatic moment (the herold of the Timpani's and Double-Bass's dotted-rhythmic march) Just to name the few things. It also invokes a beautiful sense of a late evening walk down an urban city. (I just checked the name of your piece again, and it speaks of the "Frank Bridge"! The setting illustration you were going for seems excellently executed!) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I do concur that arranging 2/4-hand Piano works into Orchestra is quite the arduous and ambitious task. Most people don't realize how difficult it really is to learn idiomatic writing for 30 or more instruments; so that your performers can perform your work at ease and with joy; and your audience can, at the same time, enjoy the listening experience of it. (I have come across a lot of works that is a 'joy' to play, because it's highly idiomatic and "quite easy to perform" with "minimal rehearsal"; but with little thought having been put into the music, which makes the listening experience of it a bit dull and flat. "Boring" music, as some would call it. In short, easy and simple to play; not fun to listen to!) As far as difficulty of instrumental writing is concerned (you brought up your virtuosic pitched percussion lines being advised by Musescore as difficult): a lot of times, it heavily depends on the personal practice (as well as personal incentive and motivation) by individual performers to bring your works to life. From my own experience: if it doesn't sound like how it's supposed to and/or it seems like the performer is struggling and making the music seem too difficult to fully and viably perform.... a lot of times, it's because they haven't practiced the music, and/or they simply need to care about it more. In these instances, it often has minimally or not at all to do with your own fine writing. Just as a composer-to-composer word of reassurance. ;) (Check out my own music score that I posed two days ago! I have spent time writing fairly to greatly idiomatically for many of the instruments; making the line seem 'harder' than it actually is. Yet, the players of its earlier first edition still struggled, when I gave it to a Philharmonic (one of 'the best' in Europe, as it is reputed; especially considering the historic famous composers who had given it premiere music to perform! Not naming names, not naming the orchestra) to performed. Furthermore, guess what?? During the first rehearsal, the dress rehearsal and the final performance that premiered this Tone Poem), it sounded like an intermediate half-learned high-school concert band that's just learning how to get it together. Individual instruments were literally sticking out, and a few sections were quite off pitch, shrill, crass and.... not performing the affects I was intending/asking for. This happened, despite having the music 3 weeks to a month before their final performance; and, they have the MIDI mockup. They were given the resources to make it happen. And, it didn't. It was very embarrassing, seeing that, at the end of the premiere, I had to stand up and take a bow. Forever, that European audience saw my face and will remember me: that it must be me as a composer. After speaking to people later down the line who reviewed the (earlier first edition of this) music, the remark I received was, "....Why was it not performed better?" or "... Why did they sound like that?" "The line is fairly easy and straight-forward to achieve, with some bit of practice." See that? Was it my music, or was it simply that my performers didn't care enough to practice it? I suppose I can diverge into the topic about Philharmonics rolling their eyes when it comes to having to "deal with" new student works (You know, 'here we go again...student works.... let's get this done, so that we can enjoy playing Beethoven and Shostakovich!!'), but I won't get too far off the topic at hand. What was my point in all of this? Your Vibraphone and Marimba lines are likely fine. It's probably regarded as difficult, but that certainly doesn't make it not viable and easy to learn! Really, it comes down to the attitude and the desire by your percussionists to learn and practice it!)
  15. Updated post with new score files - modifications have been made. Please, if anyone has the time, take a listen / look, and let me know what you think :) @Luis Hernández @Lithl @JorgeDavid
  16. Hello It’s a rather mixed bag. Some tracks seem to be aimed at a sort of children’s album, like ‘Pulling Together’ or ‘Little Walk’ – which isn’t to say they’re bad. Others have a more serious feel to them. Overall, it’s worth a listen, but those challenges of writing a piece a day… I don’t know, we’ve all had moments doing that or thinking about it… but in the end, and over time, I think you learn to try and make the most of the ideas that stand out. And even then, you might like them or you might not. Best regards.
  17. Hello I was surprised by this piece, which is in a very different style to what I’m used to. I must say that the melody works well and it gives me the feeling of a ballad from a 1960s film. I’m not sure to what extent you’ve worked in these styles, or in styles other than ornate counterpoint. What I notice here is that, curiously, there isn’t much of a counterpoint underpinning, which is nevertheless present in the Romantic period. I think the rhythmic motif, in particular, becomes a bit monotonous after more than 4 minutes. I also notice that the bass is underused as an accompaniment, and that the chords are excessively dense; the arpeggio loses its effect when it’s played all the time. And some sections are unplayable unless you resort to arpeggios again. (bars 8, 9 ...) The idea is good, but I think the overall approach falls a little short. Oh, I’d also like to mention (something I’ve said before) that Chopin’s Prelude in E minor takes a very different approach. The chords are the essence of the piece, due to their minimal movement and the perfect voice leading they achieve.
  18. Bois, lads, (or anyone of persuading affiliation), it is time for this piece to not die! I have found another call for scores fitting the instrumentation requirements in Boston, MA. I have just finished my application and will find out mid or late July. Here's to some success! (Also, updated the score to match new engraving... once again lol)
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  20. It's an absolute gem for a piece of music, my awesome @danishali903. Thanks for sharing such uplifting, mood-changing and stimulatingly lovely music.
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  22. Excellent 🗿. Can't help you much with the inspiration thing, but it's a great start. I'll follow the topic in case you drop some news!
  23. Thanks for the comments! In short, we'll see what happens with it. It something I will keep for later, but am unsure the direction I want to take it (Final form, duration, etc.) The main thing that is stopping me is inspiration specifically. While the summer, I am still rather busy and easily distracted currently. To your point about the note duration: It's more-so due to the computer. In performance/ final copy, I'd change it to a staccato and hopefully imply it's just meant to be the landing point of the run.
  24. Unexpected crescendo! It bought me. Not that much the più mosso, but it's still good, yet I feel it could be extended, and each time I listen to it I am more and more convinced, maybe a repeated section or something else playing with the material you have already put over the table would not hurt. That there are no measure numbers is a bit painful to me, but I'll use an image: These notes duration don't convince me too much, specially the first time they appear: I'm not 100% sure why but it's either that the attack of the computer performance that sounds too plain or something else. I think I have little more useful feedback this time. Great job, MK! Best regards, Daniel–Ø.
  25. A lighter composition for the early Summer, conceived as an exercise in harmonic development, apoggiaturas and chromatic saturation. Greatly inspired by Chopin's Op. 28 Prelude in E minor. YouTube video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwInFjwKJUo Romantic Prelude in A minor.mp3 Romantic Prelude in A minor.pdf
  26. Hi, cloud10000. I think this piece of yours is well-structured and very good. In particular, I felt that it is not completely in a traditional Japanese music style, but rather blended with Western music, so to speak. Creating a smooth blend of different genres is difficult, so I think it is wonderful. Since I feel this style is not very common (or maybe I just don't know many examples, so if you know of any, I'd appreciate it if you could share them with me.), a piece like this is stimulating and intriguing. On the other hand, a few parts caught my attention. First of all, the clipping. I noticed it especially around 0:48 and 3:00. Related to that, I also felt the volume of the flute at 1:46 was a bit too loud and hard to listen to. Additionally, the vocal part at 1:33 felt a bit out of place, including the timing of the performance. This is probably because it feels like a preset pasted directly in the DAW. While it might be unavoidable, I thought that if these points were improved, it would turn out to be an even more appealing piece. This is just my personal opinion, though. Best, Lithl.
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  28. Meant to reply to this sooner, I apologize. The idea I had with that example was to sort of lead-up to the octave shift, rather than to have it abruptly being played 8va from the initial melodic line. I wanted to avoid any abrupt changes in tone, and attempted to sort of smooth that transition out a bit. I suppose it didn't land as well, in your opinion? 😅 In regards to the chord volume, I could alter that a bit. The way I tend to write for solo piano is to create 2 piano parts, with one always hidden after editing that contains copy/pasted notation from piano 1. From there, I would select all notes on the left hand staff, use selection panel to deselect pedal lines, and uncheck the "play" property to silence the left hand, leaving only pedals, dynamics, and the right hand staff playback, to emphasize the right hand / melodic line. I could increase the volume of the right hand to accomodate for any playback balancing issues. Would you say that for the whole piece, as is currently, that the left hand notation is playing back a bit too loudly?
  29. This melody timestamped at 3:14 from Borodin's Polovtsian Dances is unique for starting on the ii - the supertonic:
  30. Oh, how I am lull'd into the wonderous era, which is Classical orchestral music! All I have to say is, this work is pure beauty. I can listen to this during my entire 6-hour drive from Northern to Southern California. Don't change a thing about it.
  31. Well, it's been so long since I was last here! I hope this community has been well since. I’m looking for some nice detailed peer feedback on my first Tone Poem, Myst o' Foryst a Spryng Nyte. It is a 5-part programmatic work written for a large woodwind/brass configuration, percussion ensemble, and features a prominent chamber core of Viola, Double-Bass, and Piano. (My "Alto Piano Trio" ensemble) I would be nicely interested in your thoughts on the orchestration, the pacing of the sections, and how you perceive the overall structural architecture as you listen along with the score. Please tell me of your stylistic impressions of this piece! (Note: this is a computer generated audio RENDER; not a live performance. Some of the techniques were lost in translation when it rendered, so it wouldn't sound correct. This is ESPECIALLY true of the audio files IIa and IIIa. If in a moment something sound so "wrong" and "off" in any of these audios, please rely on what is written on the page.) Thank you for your time and ear! Myst o 'Forest a Spryng Nyte (Composition) - 2nd edition - Audio portion I - meas. 1-149.mp3Myst o 'Forest a Spryng Nyte (Composition) - 2nd edition - Audio portion IIa - meas. 150.mp3Myst o 'Forest a Spryng Nyte (Composition) - 2nd edition - Audio portion IIb - meas. 151-223.mp3Myst o 'Forest a Spryng Nyte (Composition) - 2nd edition - Audio portion IIIa - meas. 224-236.mp3Myst o 'Forest a Spryng Nyte (Composition) - 2nd edition - Audio portion IIIb - meas. 237-275.mp3 A. Chen - Myst o' Foryst a Spryng Nyte - 000 - FULL SCORE (with Conductor's Rhythmic ref).pdf

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