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@PeterthePapercomPoser @Thatguy v2.0 Thank you for the replies! By no means did I mean to dissuade the structure you implemented. You cannot conform to everybody and no competition is going to be "fair" for every entry. You will have to find a system that is both fair, and not overly strict. I believe my logos was not as clear as I intended in my previous reply. Two things can be true at once and it is refreshing to see many different musicians advocate for a low-pressure means to simply write music; or share existing creations they feel have merit. At the same time, I do not want to take away from the people who are less experienced trying to throw in their works with professional composers. I do not see it fair if they do. As you hinted for the next possible event to be a Christmas one, with no limit on ensemble size, would it make sense to lump and judge a symphonic orchestra work to a solo sonata with piano accompaniment? Or a digital work to a sacred-vocal work detailing a hymn? This was the basis of my thinking in my OG reply. I simply wonder if there is a mesh between formal and informal. Here was an alternate take on my idea(s): Keep the judging by poll, and limit the votes to categories; as you did. With using a table for review, I wanted to suggest another addition to all the info you provided. You added a table showcasing the scoring system (7-7.9 = Average / Standard ). I meant to suggest adding a diagram that defines the words being used: Taste, Originality, Textures, Score Presentation, etc. Taste - Your personal score from 1-10 Score Presentation - How the score is organized / How easy it is to understand the score from 1-10 Originality - How unique does this score sound from 1-10 Creativity - How well the submitant made and used a theme from 1-10 etc. I thought it to be a good way to avoid confusion of the terms by defining the language you want to use. I do not believe that add-on to take away the fun aspect of this. Thanks again!

Now you know the truth😂

I thought you meant that you have no theory knowledge, like the words, not that you write like that!

I appreciate this kind of comment 😂😂😂

Sound:10/10 Readability:0/10 Rachmaninov Style:9/10 My Mentality after reading the score:-infinity/10

That's the reason I don't post my scores, they are not helpful, if you read my profile description you will understand, thank you Tristan!

WTF!?

I'm glad most people are favoring the fun part of the competition rather than monetary rewards. I think it's best to keep it that way for now, and your divisions would be good to use as the badge rewards instead of what we did. However, since we wanted it to be a poll instead of actual judging this time (it was thrown together pretty quickly), I like the categories we used as easy fun ways to vote. In hindsight, as I voted, I noticed there wasn't any "most fun" category, which yours clearly would have won to me. @PeterthePapercomPoser pointed it out in our discord, and we should've had that category. These are easy ways to improve managed by experience and feedback. With actual judging, your way is the way to move forward imo. More afterthoughts: I like the poll as an alternative to judging, I think both are equally valid. I'm not a fan of seeing who you vote for, but I know I'm in the minority with that. The framework for assigning numbers kind of got out of hand imo, but I'm glad people seemed to have fun with it. It wasn't necessary, but I'm glad it was an aide for people in determining which pieces they liked best. Being up front about WHAT we would be voting for would maybe be better for future poll based competitions.

I just remembered I never actually posted a thread on my Requiem, just the first two movements in a thread on my other mass, Missa Sabrina Fair! If you want to listen, try this: Churchcantor : Community Titles and scroll to bottom. The last movement is unfinished, but all I need to do is transpose a D minor fugue to Bb major, and write a coda/final cadence. Cyclical, as Süssmayr chose to complete Mozart's Requiem. In other words, the Introitus will come back in the end. Actually, that Noteflight link will default to sort by date, just sort by title.

Hello everyone, I posted this piece on the "work in progress section" but after modifying a little bit the form and cleaning it up I felt it was in an advanced state for being there (moderators, please, if possible, delete the other post as it seems I cannot delete it myself. Sorry about the trouble). I composed this inspired by a composition practice exercise based on a post in the Talkclassical forum for writing some neotonal music (Bartok, Stravinsky, etc): Step 1. Write a diatonic melody in a mode missing one note. Step 2. Use a different mode or scale for the harmony. My melody is in C Ionian without F, and the harmony is C ascending melodic minor (C major with Eb, though I ended up using E here and there too). I later added a B section with the melody focusing on the unused note F. The form is ABA'BA. A' is exactly same melody and accompaniment type but with different harmonies, specially in the first chord, that is Major instead of minor. Some of my concerns are: Does the piece and structure work overall? There is lots of repetition but I feel that having the harmony of A' changed helps on the overall flow. If the structure is repetitive, how could I add variation? I am considering changing the second B for a different theme (C) but I did not manage. Does the harmony work in general? (There might be some weird spots, specially in section B). Does it work well as a vocal piece or another instrument would be better (specially since there are no lyrics)? Technically it is in C Minor (it starts and ends in it) but since it uses mostly natural A and natural B throughout, and natural E on the melody, I used the Cmaj key signature. Is that okay or I should change it to using three flats like in natural C minor? I am not sure how to notate the piano sections that consist of ascending chordal accompaniment (with the pedal, although it is not marked). Is there any obvious mistake in the notation?) Thanks for listening and any feedback is welcome! PD: I found out that the first 4 notes and main motive of the piece (and the mood, because of the vocal singer) is similar to Jerry Goldsmith's theme to 'The Illustrated Man'. I never heard it before so it was a pure coincidence. I think the harmonization of those 4 notes is different, though.

Well, Beethoven KNEW he was a great composer in his lifetime, but he was more worried about being able to afford food, rent, and plenty of cheap wine sweetened with toxic lead salts! Not to mention digestive issues (Colitis?) that were far worse than the progressive deafness and could have killed him any time. No composer I know of made more sketches: 600 pages for the Missa Solemnis! That is a great composer, a genius, and both are very rare birds.

Well, in October I had a couple of unexpected houseguests, and the month was pretty wild! I'll leave out the details so I don't get banned again...😁The others will not be too hard to enter, but I need some time off! I am mainly researching and thinking about music rather than writing right now.

It's actually the piece I wrote in Spring '24 that made me finally at age 55 learn music software! I was trying to teach the local songbirds a few words in English, but the best they could come up with was "Beard hear, bird ear" (I have a beard) repeated endlessly, and a couple other things...he's here! Who's here? Like a baby. Now, I have entered other than some short choral pieces and a short (G&S-scale) opera all the music I care to enter unless I write something else...the overture of the opera is at least entered!

Yes, do check out my old-school Requiem! It is not death-obsessed, but rather a hopeful Requiem in a major key. The Introitus is Romantic, but it goes Neoclassical pretty soon after. I broke up the text just like Mozart did, and in the manuscript even had a funny where I wrote, in the exact place Mozart croaked, his apparent last written words: Quam Olim DC...da capo. Actually, start here! Requiem In Bb Major-Quam Olim II Free Sheet Music by Robert C. Fox for Various Instruments | Noteflight

Thanks for listening! My style goes with my bipolar nature. When I’m in a down cycle, it tends to be more dissonant and frantic, while the manic episodes tend to produce a more romanticesque feel. I based the structure for this off of Mozart’s, with a few omissions. That requiem is one of the pieces that made me want to be a composer and has always inspired me. I’ll have to check out your piece!

Thanks for taking the time to listen. The main mood of the piece is a little nihilistic, hence the frantic dissonance, but I’m glad you caught the more plaintive feel of the Pie Jesu. My intention was to conclude with a more mournful, but calm thought. Almost as a recognition of the evil in the world, but with a resolution to carry on.

Hello, Maybe I catch an organic form of music : Full improvisation, no rythm duty, acoustic drum, no remix, only reverberation effect on Audacity, one take, never repeatable (none by its author), weekly production.. Ombrée Zatlick is the name of the artist

Haven't listened to the whole piece, but enough to know that you are a good composer, but this style is not my cup of tea! I should talk; I used to write like that 34 years or so ago. I have simplified my style. On the other hand, the music seems to reflect the state of the world, THIS world at least, and without going into detail, I would say the problem with the world (plus ca change, plus se la meme chose) is that the lunatics are in charge of the asylum! 🤪 I wrote a Requiem in Bb Major, posted here in choral music, string orchestra. It is different than yours. I went old-school and mainly just doubled the SATB parts in the strings, though there are preludes and postludes, interludes, SOME figurations. It is modeled on the Mozart-Süssmayr Requiem in D minor, but it doesn't sound like Mozart, except in the occasional turn of phrase.

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Well, I like this so far, halfway through. Starts impressionistic, then goes all poppy, like a well-composed film score. Only criticism I can think of right now is NEVER LET UP THE RHYTHM! Don't take that too literally...Mendelssohn was a great composer in his orchestral writing, but his piano music is lovely yet flawed: he tended to take one figuration and repeat it for the entire piece, and some of those figurations have been called "sugar icing" by the piano in his solo and chamber works, concertos...

OK, corrected the impossible chords; you think measure 107 is a jarring transition? You are correct! Bb major, F minor, Gb major, C major 7, and I wrenched it into dominant E major. Perhaps I was in a jarring mood that day! 🤪 Now I have to correct the darned manuscript. Yuck. I take pride in my manuscripts being neat with very few corrections, though I have been known to store them on the floor. Beethoven's apartment had manuscripts on the floor, copied out pages drying on furniture, and an unemptied chamber pot STORED UNDER THE PIANO! No wonder he was a better composer than me, or, well, most anybody.

haha yeah indeed they are.

Yes, ideas that I've brewed as well. I'm glad that the ideas are not lonely, here. lol I also just wanted to share this because c'mon... Why wouldn't I show these chords off for others to enjoy as well 😭 They're gorgeous, I think

Hey @Mooravioli! No doubt your piano prelude is good. And congrats on having your teacher playing it for you! It's a pleasure and honor for you! I had actually listened to this piece before your teacher played it haha. I remember I said that I wanted the trio section to be longer, and I think you do extend it in this version! I think the flow is better now! The harmony and texture is very interesting throughout, they certainly reflect a sense of escape from the time of anxiety now. I really like the b.37 section, even though it's light-hearted, it's easy to ignore the beautiful counterpoint there. I also like the reappearance of the first theme where you instead use the texture of from b.37 first, before recapitulating the lucid texture in b.108. Really enjoyable piece, thx for sharing!! Henry