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Now we have two Eb minor pieces right next to each other! Congratulations on your arrangement. Especially enjoyed your use of muted horns, and viola solos. Seem to remember using the harp even more sparingly in my version.

Thanks Henry. I think it would have to be shared between flutes anyway, otherwise they wouldn't be be able to breathe! I just hadn't got round to marking in the instrument changes yet. I could indeed split the arpeggios across more than just violins and harp, as Luis has done. Will give that a try at some point. It just takes a bit longer to notate.

A 7-voice canon I have been recently working on with the intent of following the rules of counterpoint while employing a somewhat unorthodox usage of extended harmonies and tonally-adjecent suspensions, featured heavily in the minor 2nd intervals produced by the maintained rhythms of each subsequent entry in the opening section. The text corresponds to Bible verse Matthew 28:5, translated as follows: "But the angel said to the women in response: 'Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified'." The addition of the initial "et" conjunction to the Latin text is not present in the Vulgate version of this passage, however its inclusion was deemed necessary to accommodate for the prosodic adaptation of the entire verse across the whole piece without disturbing the flow of the initial suspensions. The choice of the text was based around Bible verses mentioning angelic contact, and more specifically those containing the phrase "fear not"/"be not afraid" as a more secular reference to the niche Biblically-Accurate Angel meme trend which inspired the compositional concept at the core of this piece. YouTube video link: https://youtube.com/shorts/um0jb9Y8iJ4?feature=share Canon at the 2nd a 7 in F-sharp minor.mp3 Canon at the 2nd a 7 Et respondens autem angelus dixit.pdf

The starting key is technically F-sharp minor. I'm guessing you assumed it was E major since the 2nd entry is in its relative minor, C-sharp. The coda is in F-sharp/G-flat major, the relative major of the initial key. Thus, one could say it goes full-circle before the ending. Thank you kindly for your observations. Even though my Pantonal Perpetual Canon series is not yet over, I have been stuck for months on developing others of its type. Even though the contrapuntal possibilities might as well be infinite, the formula and its configuration are now so strictly defined all the parameters involved seem to stifle new ideas and actively work against more unconstrained developments (admittedly an ironic outcome considering the core message of this one canon in particular). As such, I will have to bring it to a pause until I regain the inspiration and creative spark necessary to keep working on them. Until then I should once again focus on choral music due to circumstances I cannot fully disclose yet, but which (with enough luck) may see one of my pieces performed for the first time ever! Although such a dream is still as uncertain as it could be, the mere possibility fills me with hope. Expect future updates on this around the turn of the year!

Hi all. I’m reading a very interesting book called Musical Poetics, which brings together six lectures given by Stravinsky at Harvard between 1930 and 1940. I highly recommend it; it’s an enjoyable read and, well, this man certainly knew what he was talking about. On the subject of composition (Lecture No. 3), he says: The study of the creative process is one of the most delicate. It is, in fact, impossible to observe the inner workings of such a process from the outside. It is futile to try to follow the stages of another’s work. It is equally difficult to observe oneself. Even so, I believe that by drawing on my own introspection, I may have some chance of guiding you through this essentially fluid subject. Most music lovers believe that what drives the composer’s creative imagination is a certain emotional restlessness generally referred to as ‘inspiration’. I do not intend to deny inspiration the prominent role attributed to it in the creative process we are studying; I simply maintain that it is by no means a prerequisite for musical art, but rather a secondary manifestation in the sequence of events.

Hi all - I’m back from a bit of a musical hiatus/summer break, and I wanted to share my latest orchestration project: Fauré’s Nocturne No. 1 in E-flat minor. Some of you may remember an earlier orchestration of this piece posted on the forum by @Alex Weidmann which I also reviewed at the time. That version gave me some ideas and eventually inspired me to try orchestrating the piece myself, although I ended up taking my own approach to it. I still think this is a surprisingly difficult piece to orchestrate. E-flat minor is not the friendliest orchestral key, particularly for the strings, harp, and transposing instruments. The piano writing also contains a lot of overlapping lines and inner details that cannot simply be transferred directly without the texture becoming too heavy. As an additional challenge, I limited myself to a relatively small chamber orchestra: two flutes with piccolo doubling, oboe, English horn, two clarinets, two bassoons, two horns, harp, and strings. I was thinking loosely of the scale and transparency of Ravel’s orchestration of the Pavane pour une infante défunte, rather than trying to imitate its sound directly. My goal was to preserve the intimate, nocturnal character of the original while passing the melodic material between solo winds, divided strings, and occasional string soloists. I also tried to avoid using the harp as a constant substitute for the piano, saving it instead for color and continuity. I’m interested to hear what everyone thinks. The score and audio are attached—thanks for taking a look! Nocturne No. 1 in E Flat Minor - Flow 1.mp3 Full score.pdf

Hi @Vasilis Michael my friend! Thx so much for your comprehensive review and appreciation! I feel really happy for it! Yeah I hate doing the same thing all the time so I chip and chop here and there to vary the music. I always think in a chamber music every player is independent and at the same time harmonizing and cooperating with each other (just like a fugue but unlike orchestral music) so I always want every player has a chance to shine themselves and communicating in different ways. Yeah I think it will be boring if I don't do so: I could have changed the melody for variation but since I really love that particularly melody, I can only change the instrumentation and keys and texture for varitation, as well as pushing the music forward. I put coherence and motivic development in the first priority in my music since that makes a piece a meaningful entity rather than seperate parts forcefully glued together to be named as a piece. The harmonic language is determined by the Eb-D-C-B motive itself, as there are lots of modulations via major 3rd which is also the main motive of the whole piece. I want that major motive not only controlling micro but also macro aspect of the whole movement as well. Thx for mentioning Brahms, I only notice recently that the whole Clarinet Qunitet is essentially Brahmsian. Yes, the confuso description is added in this revised version since I find it fit to the music. The dark energy here is released by 1st movement's disappointment and despair and may be you can check it out too if you have time (it's 21 minutes long 😬): When I compose I always think of what I want to express and what the music itself wants to express. To me technicality is always means to the ultimate aim of the music: the unique meaning this piece of music can express. So every piece of music has their own life because they have their own thing to express. Being effective is merely a prerequisite for real expression in arts. I am really happy to have discovered your music and invite you to this forum! I love your music even more since recently I am digging Scarlatti's Sonatas one by one. Thx for your review and activity in this forum! Henry

Haha yeah I can't stop writing until the music finishes itself. The confuso is added in my revision and I find it really fit to the movement! Henry

I actually take the stance of a classical Chinese literary critic book, "The Literary Mind and the Carving of Dragons" [文心雕龍] that you have to be really familiar with all the techniques and theories that when you write you can forget all of them and use them whenever the music requires. My way of writing is always intuitive but I always study when I'm not writing as to prepare for my intuition during composing. For me it's not appropriate to write for theory; theory serves composition and not the opposite. Theory always comes after works are written, and this holds true for all forms of creation. For me the purpose of music is the same as poems: to express yourself in a unique way, the only difference is that poem uses words and music uses non-verbal sound. I totally agree with you guys, for me there's no intuition or inspiration without already some composing skills in your head. Your knowledge storage determines the quality of your inspiration. I have the same approach with you @Vasilis Michael ! Usually I allow the music guides me to where it want to first, and then after that inspiration spike and I return to my own I start polishing the natural gem with my own polishing skills! Thx for this great topic! Henry

Hi @ferrum.wav ! I just listen to the updated version without scrutinously comparing the score, but I agree the updated version is less boring! The music definitely feels more moving forward and there are more varities in texture. I can tell the quality is improved! Thx for sharing the update! Henry

HI @Kvothe ! It's an interesting topic! To me style follows when you have unique things to express as you can never fake a new style if you don't have unique things to talk about in a unique way. I agree with @Luis Hernández that it's easiest to achieve a personal style by eclecticism, maybe that's my approach towards composing too. There's no one absolutely best style, but only the most suitable style to present your very own thoughts in a most unique way. Henry

Hi @MinGry ! It's interesting for you to end the piece in tonic minor which makes the title "corrupted". I think the voice leading is improved comparing to your first Sonatina no.1, but of course it can be further improved. My favourite movement is the 2nd mov, it really gives some Schubertian singing quality there. Thx for sharing! Henry

Hi @Alex Weidmann ! I listen to both the original and the revised version and I enjoy both versions to be honest. I think for @Luis Hernández 's suggestion is that the whole arppeggiated phrase need not to be played by one instrument alone: for example in 4:20 even if you want the whole phrase played by flute alone, you could have shared the phrase to flute I and flute II players respectively, or in some bars later by divisi Vioin I players which will give the additional benefit of minimizing the volume as well. Thx for sharing this wonderful (again!) arrangement! Henry

Hi @Tristan25 ! I think first some of the harmony are not matching with the melody, for example the last 2 beats of b.18-21. B.22-25's last 2 beats are better because there are resolutions to the suspension in the 3rd beat. Another aspect is variation. I think you can definitely add a contrasting section in a different key in the middle, since here it's predominiantly A major with not so much harmonic and modal contrast. Thx for sharing. Henry

Hi @Nazariy ! I listen to the Scherzo and it feels really smooth with all those transitions. I feel like the contrasting Ab major section could be longer but it's subjective. At some point there could be an even louder climaxes to add more flavours to the movement. But overall it's a really good movement, thx for sharing! Henry

Hi Mason, The accompaniment at the beginning immediately reminds me of the Db major Nocturne of Chopin. The half diminished harmony in b.20-22 is really nice, and I like the more fluid section after it. A simple but really nice nocturne indeed and thx for sharing! P.S. And forgive me if it sounds weird, but permits me to say that you look really charming and handsome playing the piece =.= Thx for playing it by showcasing your own playing. I play my pieces too but I never dare to show own ugly face playingthe pieces 🤪. Henry

Hello Peter, Please count me in this competition too. It's time to inspire myself to write new music.

The way I approach composition is primarily intuitive, and it relies heavily on listening and on my direct relationship with the instrument. I usually don’t begin with a specific theoretical or harmonic idea, but rather with a sound, a musical gesture, or a feeling that emerges at the piano. I allow the music to develop as naturally as possible, following what my ear and instinct tell me, and only afterwards do I use my theoretical knowledge to understand, refine, and shape what has already emerged. I also think that my many years of immersing myself in the music of the great composers have deeply influenced the way I think musically. Through years of listening to and studying their works, many of the principles of their musical language have gradually become almost intuitive to me—not as conscious rules, but as an internalized musical language. So, for me, theory is not the starting point, nor is it a set of rules that I have to follow; it is rather a tool that helps me give form, coherence, and clarity to something I have first heard and felt. For me, music is first heard and felt, and only afterwards analyzed.

I’ve named this piece "A Wistful Waltz in Cheerful A Major." Perhaps you could offer some advice on how to improve it. A Wistful Waltz in Cheerful A Major5.pdf A Wistful Waltz in Cheerful A Major5.mp3

after two WEEEKKKS, the revision is finally DONEEEEEEEEEE (definitely longer than a few days lmao) i ended up investing more time on this but its definitely worth it cus i do think is so much better. a lot of it was just changing the boring accompaniment to make it more interesting rather than repeat one to one. the new version highlights those peaks on phrases, added more rooms to breathe, and variations!! im definitely spent on this damn piece but is out now so ENJOYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! here's the OLD version for comparison, NEW version is on the main post at the top of this thread. To Fantasize Contentment OLD.mp3 To Fantasize Contentment OLD.pdf

I wrote a movement in sonata form where all of the phrases in the exposition and development are prime numbers in length in terms of measures. Primes.mp3 Primes.pdf

Wow a nearly 800 bar scherzo 😵‍💫 I haven’t heard it yet but have read the score. The persistent of the opening motif is indeed “confusing”. Intentional I suppose of course.

I changed the recapitulation today. The arpeggios are now mostly in the violins, with only the root notes in the harp. I also elaborated the flute part: so it's now playing almost continuous alternate arpeggios on top. I wonder if this flute part is a step too far? It may be distracting from the main melody? Anyway the new material starts around 4'20", and I also made several other tweaks throughout the piece. (Please ignore the messy slurs: these are only temporary.) Rachmaninoff - Elegie in E♭ minor (orchestration) #30 (midi).mp3 Rachmaninoff - Elegie in E♭ minor (orchestration) #30 (midi).pdf

Hello, It's very nice. You should write more music for the piano! I love how the A theme is pretty straight forward, but still sounds refreshing and interesting. I think you found a nice balance between compositional creativity and actually sounding good. And when you bring it back, it just sort of ends. Which I liked very much. It's like you've said all you needed to say, no need to draw it out anymore. The B sections sounds almost a bit triumphant at times. There was a part around 1:34 that really sounded like "that" famous Chopin nocturne in Db. Thanks for sharing the personal meaning for your song!