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The clarinet and piano complements one another very well, whether it is the give and take, question or answer, or use of chords and arpeggios for the piano, or runs in the melodies for the Clarinet. the feeling of general ease is well-balanced with the slightly more mysterious phrases. This works nicely as both as a piece in itself, a background music piece or even a programmatic piece. Have you thought of modulating this to A maj or any other key for contrasts?

I found another pop song that never hits the tonic! It's very well known and cycles through the same four chords throughout the whole song LoL! I also noticed that a lot of these songs that I'm posting have very weak harmonic motion. The chords are as follows: ii | IV | vi | V | (in A major) Ultimate Guitar Tab.com claims that this song is in B minor because it starts on the B minor chord - but if so then the song would be considered in Dorian mode - but to me it doesn't sound like it's in Dorian - it sounds like the D major chord in the second bar is definitely a sub-dominant.

Hey there! Today I submit my latest work. I'm not composing much lately but I managed to come up with this being somehow a reflection of thinking about the happy moments lately. It has some similarity with that highly expressive Rachmaninov style, that somehow represent for me really well this type of feelings. I hope you like it!

Not sure anyone's reading this thread; but wanted to provide a new audio file anyway, to match the last pdf.

That's one vote for @MisterWesley!

Have just updated my score for this one. Removed some glaring errors, and added more expression marks.

I think some of the writing here could be produced with good effect using woodwinds, real woodwinds. These sounds don’t do the writing any favors.

It yields a nice unpredictable surreal effect. There is also the occasional allusion to Impressionism. And at times a layering of more than one, sort of, “style.”

I've corrected a few things, done some minor and medium 🙂 changes, mostly in the development and recapitulation. Maybe needs a short coda? Any suggestions super welcome! Ciao! triopf1.mp3

Yea... wht a waste - I thought of this not long after posting it in YT. I wanted to insert a part w the same melody in A major : ( damnz...

Sure go ahead! - I don't know how to move this other than deleting this and posting it there : (

This song from the musical "The Greatest Showman" recently caught my attention:

i hate to double post, but i thought i should include the new youtube video and edited/refined score of this piece. thanks to @PeterthePapercomPoser for the name!

Same to you!! It has some LOTR feels within! Not throughout the whole piece, but in certain sections! Hope you enjoy the listen!

Hi there! It was a pleasure. I will be sure to check out your YouTube and your SoundCloud in a bit; thanks so much for sharing them. I bookmarked your Orchestral and Large Ensemble post. 🙂 I'm a film scoring student and I also happen to do mainly orchestral and traditionally instrumented projects (with the occasional synth piece here and there, similar to you), and if your new piece has a Lord of the Rings vibe I'm sure I would really enjoy it. Glad we could connect!

Thank you so much, Gwendolyn!! I greatly appreciate your feedback and taking your time to listen! Happy to hear you enjoyed the piece. It was fun to put together. I'm not usually doing a lot of synth things. So wanted to play around in that field a bit. Aiming to just keep trying different things and figuring out to capture the ideas and themes that I have. It's a fun challenge, but I do want to further my knowledge in theory. I like the idea of doubling at the end. I'll play around with that! I do post things to YouTube occasionally. That's here. Then also pieces I'm workshopping over on Soundcloud. Then I actually made a new post over in the Orchestral and Large Ensemble forum last night!

Moved this to Composers HQ so that there's more visibility. While I do agree AI can be a good thing, it's just a tool. I've always said this...a 2 year old is smarter than AI. The reason? Because a 2 year old has actual intelligence, and can make decisions based on external stimuli. Whereas, AI is not intelligence, it's a misnomer. I would challenge an AI to create a melody at the Tchaikovsky level. The AI may create music that sounds like Tchaikovsky, but just the harmonies perhaps. This is largely because harmony is more of the mathematical aspect of music, whereas melody or structure is the creative aspect of music. Anything to do with creativity, is something AI wouldn't handle that well. It may simulate creativity, but it will never actually execute something on its own.

Hi, @Layne 🙂 Really imaginative piece! I was immediately hooked on the delicious harmonies and I am even more impressed if you're relying more on intuition than theory knowledge. I didn't find the chord voicings too sparse personally -- I think they work well in this style of music, and they were fairly consistent throughout the piece which I again think is no problem in such a short work. If you still wanted to thicken the texture at all, I wonder how it would sound at the end of you doubled the lead in octaves. It might be a nice strong last impression to leave the listeners with; I have heard it done for effect at the end of some short pieces -- just an idea. Well done! And, that's awesome that you played the cello for a few years. I played throughout my high school years. Would love to get familiar with more of your music! Have a lovely day, Gwen

Thanks for your opinion! That's a fact, that AI can't invent or figure out anything. It can generate things based on its training set. If John Williams or Karl Bryullov don't consent, the AI music-generator algorithms just can't use their stuff. If an AI algorithm creates something extraordinary that would be just a coincidence, and probably unrepeatable, but a human can invent something, and use it consciously. However, I'm a quiet skeptic about your standpoint, that AI will lead us a new age that talentless idiots won't be able to spread their shi*t. Maybe it will be more interesting because the stupidity of mankind is not replicable by an AI.

IMO this would be better in Composer's Headquarters maybe? Anyway, I believe that AI music and art are largely positive developments. In the arts, automation has only ever increased the value of skilled craftsmen who can "do it for real". In the late '90s, autotune was heralded as the death of the singer, but people who were actually able to sing have only become more valued by society and the highest-paying positions in the industry. This kind of thing does not happen in blue-collar industries. Once the robot can do your job, it's over — because not so deep down, and despite a lot of the frankly borderline-communist praise that the working-class enjoy today, people do not really value menial work, but rather culture. It is also the case that AI seeks to emulate high standards in art and music. It is not seeking to recreate some modern art nonsense or atonal gibberish but rather the expertise of John Williams and Karl Bryullov. Even if it reaches that level, it will not be able to offer the human input and working relationship required to achieve a unified artistic vision. We are now entering an age where your cellphone can produce a better artistic work or piece of music in seconds than people taping bananas to walls and call it "art" or the myriad zimmer clones and "it's all subjective" types, and these people will no longer be taken seriously by the masses or people with money to spend. They will either have to start taking the craft seriously and "git gud" or go the way of the dodo.

Hey Guys, I hope you're doing well! I have been thinking about AI in music for a while, and I hope it's not a problem to share my thoughts about this field. Here's my (unsolicited) opinion on AI-generated music. Human artists cannot be (completely) replaced by current AI technologies because these technologies lack taste, consciousness, and individuality, and they are unable to produce anything truly new. Additionally, training an AI on 10,000 pieces of good music does not guarantee that it will produce good music itself. However, AI-generated music can be envisioned in projects where quality is secondary and budgets are low. Using AI music can reduce costs, but even a mediocre or slightly bad human composer can often produce better music for minimal pay. Human composers are consciously capable of improving or modifying compositions based on instructions, which is a capability that AI is only limitedly capable of. So, while AI-generated music can be suitable for projects with low budgets and where quality is not a top priority, it cannot fully replicate the unique creativity and quality of human-created music. Of course, these statements concern today's AI technology with neural networks. Neural networks are just mathematical matrices with weights adjusted by error-finding and error-correcting methods. The current AI technology used requires the algorithm that forms the weights in the matrix to receive the correct outcome and perform error correction in each iteration accordingly. However, in the case of music, the correct outcome is partly subjective and the result depends on the musical materials used for training. However, according to current laws, copyrighted materials cannot be used to train music neural networks. It's an interesting case; I'm on Fiverr, where I was offered $25 by a music-generating website for a complete 3-4 minute symphonic piece. Who would create a full symphonic composition for $25? Certainly not Danny Elfman or Hans Zimmer.

Apologies for the extremely delayed message. I have been meaning to get back to you! But life has been crazy. I appreciate you listening and your feedback! I don't have a lot of what I'd call true music theory knowledge. My dad is a musician, so music has always been in my life. And I played cello through elementary and middle school. But in terms of formal training outside of that...I have none other than what I've learned from listening to classical and soundtracks. Also, glad to hear it encompasses the idea well!

It's been far too long since I've been able to sit down and dedicate any length of time to a piece. Life has just gotten busy, so...this evening while having some free time I decided to sit down and try to finish this piece! It's a suite of themes that I decided to string together and call..."The Return Home". Some portions of it have a grand sound that I relate to a Lord of the Rings feeling (but not nearly as impressive in my opinion). The piano takes a fairly lead role amongst the symphony. With features in there from woodwinds, choir, and a few others. I hope you enjoy the listen! I've enjoyed spending my time working on this one and personally feel that the stretched out approach may have improved the end piece. Allowing me to come back every few days and listen again with fresh ears. Tweak and change. And this is where it remains now! As always, this was put together in FL Studio using a variety of VSTs. BBCSO Discover, LABS, a couple Spitfire Originals. Looking forward to hearing some feedback!

Hi again @Aw Ke Shen, I don't think this is pop at all. As a moderator I'm tempted to just move it into the piano/solo keyboard forum since I think that's where it really belongs - but it might just be me so if you want me to move it just let me know. I perceive this as almost Grieg-like. Despite using lots of repetition this once again impresses me with the amount of variation; canonic imitation, changing subdivisions, change of register. And the melody is very beautiful in it's simplicity and especially prone to being varied in multiple ways while still being audibly related to the original. The only thing that's missing is a key change. The melody/harmony is also a good example of how parallel 5ths in this style of writing don't automatically destroy independence of voices. Thanks for sharing!