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Wait... we were having a piano competiton?? Dammit! Did i miss it? :/

Aww… "The Lamb" always makes me cry. So gorgeous.

Me too. :P hahah. So, here's the deal.. I wonder if the forum format is just too big for what we are right now. I'm a member of a few facebook composition/orchestration groups... I know this might not be optimal (though, I will say that this site seems to be fairly facebook integrated...), but you/we might consider moving to a facebook group where we share pieces by thread and review questions by thread. Instead of having a whole separate forum. That's a VERY drastic thing, but I'm throwing out drastic options so we can scale them back and make them reasonable. In fact, there probably should just be a more laid back space, where community is the main focus, and the music-talk is organic from it. This whole system of "reviewing" and "contests"... these all seem to be parts of a community that is 30-40-50 people large. Where it's hard to keep up with everything unless it's organized. I, honestly, don't see the problem with scaling the forum back to the way it was back in the day. There weren't as many categories, and the music was NOT at the top of the page. Just some thoughts. I'm probably wrong. It's been a long time since I really put thought into the forum. My ideas might be outdated, but I like to think I have some out of the box theories that could work.

Really? Like who? That sounds like a very broad assumption with no bases behind it. You are aware that Schoenberg wrote a text book on functional harmony and at the end of his career wrote tonal music, that Ligeti was a master at tonal counterpoint, Pendereski began and ended his career as a tonal composer, even John Cage has a tonal piece or two. In fact most, if not all, composers who primarily write in a non-tonal fashion have roots in tonality; and you have to be write non-tonal music and to even understand it. Unless that statement was directed to amateur composers on this site or others, to make the statement that "atonal composers tend to be objectively unable to compose music which appeals to anyone outside academic circles" is an egregious assumption that comes from mainly from pure ignorance of 20th century music history. Its akin to the assumption Picasso didn't know how to paint through merely looking at his later paintings. And again, I make the point that this is a debate kept alive by those who are 90 years late to the discussion. Many of these composers are long dead, and their music and influence has proven to withstand the test of time. In the professional plural-stylistic music world, the atonal v. tonal debate is long gone and the verdict has been rendered; both tonal and non-tonal styles are equally valid. One can see this to be true as many professional composers of the 21st century are neither one or the other. The only ones who are still bent out of shape by this are those composers who have failed to either understand the real world we live in as composers, or have failed at their own compositional goals and proceed to blame one style for turning away their potential audience.