Das Schlechte der Welt

I don't have to say anything about this piece.

Das Schlechte der Welt

Doesn't sound like the worst in the world

I really like it, there some parts which are not that great, but there are a few veeery lovely parts!

Overall very good work!!!

I did not paraphrase this world's malice, but you can hear what I feel like when looking at the current state of the world. It feels like the most important banalities are missing...

This is such a cool piece!!!

That piano sounds live, even though I'm sure it's from FruityLoops :) Overall very solid, and that hint of sadness and jaggedness. I felt it lost its way a little in parts, but came back with a section of really good stuff. Love to see this performed for real, and lookforward to what you compose next!!

P.S. Ooooooo, Ich habe lernen Deutsch für ein jahre!! Die klavier *composition* ist übersetzt The Bad the World, ist das nicht??

Sry for the most probably atrocious German, couldn't help myself :P :rolleyes:

P.S. Ooooooo, Ich habe lernen Deutsch für ein jahre!! Die klavier *composition* ist übersetzt The Bad the World, ist das nicht??

That's lovely! :happy:

You're right, the title says: The Bad of the World

Cool piece! It sounds a bit like Final Fantasy X's Piano Collection - Decisive Battle.

I suppose the bad in the world is ...minor?

With so a title I would expect some super-sarcasm, but dunno. I think you should say more about it, since the title itself doesn't mean much as to what you actually wrote.

After all for me a piece called "the bad in the world" would be very different for everyone. Hell I don't even know what I would do with such a topic. I guess I'd make something like a "silent" piece, but unlike cage mine wouldn't have an ending, it'd have da capo ad infininum.

So more explanation would be good, otherwise I can just comment on the notes and not care about the title...but that's boring and I won't do it.

I hope you don't mind, if I answer with a fictional story now. I think it represents the progression of this piece, but I also want this to make understanding the title easier. It is not what I had in mind when composing it, but the story suits the feelings of the track and it might make you understand the title. The story is parabolic to the real world, so it's not really what I call spectacular. You will have to pay attention to the overall message in order to understand the similitude. Remember, this is an allegory - keep this in mind and you will understand what I wanted to depict.

I'll have this setting: We're in a small city, famous for its forest. It's said that up to 300 different kinds of birds live within this colorful forest - next to it, the people lived a life very close to nature, but there was some growing unrest the last weeks. Two parts of groups formed the political conduct of this city - the high council and the common politicians. The members of the high council were by far the most frugal people in town and they spent most of their time within the forest - they were only a small, but well-organized group of old people, capable of making very wise and farsighted decisions. The politicians were the leaders in charge of the more conventional and usual happenings in town, the common city lifestyle and they were part of it - newly elected every few years. Here's your story...

0:00 Many people had a wealthy but also frugal life and they regularly visited the city's forest while paying a massive amount of respect to nature. The last few days, the politicians had changed due to a change of government and the townsfolk was unsettled a little, which was only natural.

0:32 The new leaders had a different kind of motivation than their predecessors and they seemed obsessed by something that did not really fit into this city's feelings. Without even discussing this with the high council, they ordered that parts of the forest should be destroyed, so that the city could extend.

0:51 Machines started to tear down trees and the trees were brought into the city, so that they could gain valuable ressources. People have never been this respectless for more than a hundred years...

1:27 The high council watched the happening with a very sad look. They were in contact with the collective consciousness of the nature and they felt a deep grief and as this change continues, almost half of all the birds lost their home. Some of them merely died while some others tried to escape this scene, but many of them were not able to find another appropriate forest to live on and only a few of the ones that escaped survived.

2:24 The remaining birds returned and simply tried to settle within the newly build parts of the city. While most of the townsfolk didn't realize that a drastic change was going on, there were others who felt that this city was changing and they were forced into a life they didn't really appreciate. The city grew as the forest got diminished even more.

2:59 The high council watched the city as it grew bigger and more bustling with every day. It might have looked like their hands were tied, but for some reason, the high council did not feel like that at all.

3:34 Within only a short period the city was covered in smog and the high council knew that this is not a state that this city could bear, neither the poeple nor the forest. It was time for another, even bigger change...

4:05 The city was a dark place already, but this time the sky was even darker than it ever used to be. Strange winds suddenly came up and while the city was covered in dark clouds the winds grew stronger every second. It did not take long and tornados appeared and began to unleash their might within the city. Houses got destroyed, vehicles were spinned around in the air and the people were merely exposed to this unbelievable force. Vast amounts of the city have been leveled and not many survived the ordeal.

5:09 This devastating day has ended and the tornados were gone, but the strong winds remained as if they wanted to let somebody know that the tornados could come back any time. The tornados have left a place of pure destruction and almost no survivor had a place to live anymore. This time, every member of the high council decided to go to the city and they found that most of the politicians are still alive, although badly wounded and overly desperate. The leading politician was rescued by one of the council's members, but the politician did not understand a single thing. He looked into a face of eternal wisdom and he could not find the least little hint of hatred or anger in the councilor's eyes. At this time, the politician realized that there was a force that caused this tornados, but neither hatred not any kind of anger was the cause for this to happen - it was merely a consequence, but certainly no coincidence. Now, even the politician realized, that they could not make this city what they wanted it to be - this very special city had its own role and consciousness and both were heavily connected to the forest.

6:13 From that day on, both the high council and the politicians worked together again and they were very eager to make room for the forest again. Not much of the fallen city has been rebuilt and the smog grew smaller every day. Still, the winds were unusually strong since this very decisive day and they shall remind everyone of the townsfolk, as well as everyone of the current and upcoming politicians, that this city can only continue to exist, if the forest will exist, as well.

That concludes the story. No, I do not consider the bad in the world minor...

I think you missed the part where I asked what it meant to the music. Ok so now there's a story there, that's alright, but so what?

Why did you write what you wrote musically? There's a billion ways to set that same story to music, why this particular one? Did you actually have the story beforehand or did you make it up to explain???

Raises more questions than answers, honestly.

Yes, and now that you've gone into further detail with your questions, I see that I'm not sure whether I understand your questions.

From time to time, I tend to ask composers what they felt like when composing a particular piece, but most of the time I listen to music without being able to gain any information about the motivation / inspiration of the music. I don't think that this is a necessary thing to know about the music you listen to - you can like / dislike music independently on this background information, don't you think so too? And this will not reduce the music to only notes, as you mentioned before. Music will then unfold an individual meaning and it might differ from the one the composer has intended. Well, that's what I think...

Did you actually have the story beforehand or did you make it up to explain?

The track was fully completed when I wrote the story. When composing, I did not have any of the story's elements in mind, so I completely came up with it afterwards.

I have something else to say that might shed some light upon your other questions.

At the time I started composing this track, I had a strange and sad feeling - not just a caprice, there was a 'reason' for this feeling. When I had it finished, I realized that this track features not only sad feelings, but some others as well, more differentiated and multifarious - the general feeling of the overall track could still be described as sad, though. When listening to this piece several times, parts of this story added up to the full story and I had the progression of this piece explained and with it, the different states of sadness had a context. When the story was completed, I felt like I had this 'reason' (the origin of this feeling) explained to myself.

Other than that, I can't answer any of your questions...

It's simply a question of why you wrote what you wrote. Why not clusters? Why not other instruments? The bad in the world is a piano??

That kind of stuff. Does it have to do with the title at all?

Oooh...

First of all, I do not have a big sound library and the only good instruments I have are piano, drums and a few brass instruments.

Other than that, my style is some sort of very easy language and I want to communicate with people that do not necessarily are experienced at musical theory, history and the likes. I always have very clear statements in my works - they might become dissonant, but not abstract, if you know what I mean... I simply don't like to convey feelings with clusters and my means mostly go back to the feeling that is conveyed by a melody and a harmony - simple things, very old school...

I also rarely include the choice of instruments into my primary intention of the statements.

It's more like the bad of the world is played by a piano, but it is not the piano itself, if you see the difference.

You might have figured that I don't listen to pieces that require background knowledge in order to be understood. And I also could never really enjoy abstract music (sorry, if this is not the right word, but I think you know what I mean).

Interpretation of the title regardless, I think this is an effective piece. Simple and evocative, without sounding too much like "pop piano".

It's funny, I don't think it sounds that sad. The part at 0:58-1:08 sounds a bit sad, but other than that, I found it more lively and pretty. I like the sound of it though. It sounds to me like some child playing and the various things that happen during that.

I would have to agree. To me it's a piece of recollection, happiness even.

Still, a cool piece.

Now that some time has passed since I composed this piece I must say that I'm not too happy with the overall result. The composition itself comes with lots of different ideas, but although I think they fit together pretty good I think there is some kind of ambiguity concerning the interpretation of mine - just as you mentioned. The title seems very strange to me now, too, and some passages are a bit too static for my taste - too many straight build-ups without a progressing statement, which caused the need for contrasty changes. I think the best parts are right at the beginning.

Also that transition around 2:55 bothers me quite a lot...

So I guess the song is now a concert overture poem? Very well, but I lost interest in quite a few parts.

no, I don't really want to connect this piece to a poem or anything like that anymore. It's just the piece as it is now.

Ahh, really cool. Sehr gute Komposition. Ich mag die Harmonien!

I'm glad you posted this. I like the key a lot... and the music, too. I wish I could see a score?

Great job, though!

Guten Tag, oder die Nacht .. je nachdem, wo Sie sind!

Heckel

Dankeschön!

No, I don't have a score for this one and at this time it doesn't look like I'm going to create one. Sorry for that, I can only show you a bunch of green bars in a simple matrix.

I usually have a bit more to say than this, but I liked what you have here pretty well. But it was hard for me to really focus on and get meaning out of it: there's a certain lack of cohesion through the piece. Once it was over, I couldn't really remember much about it :dunno: But while it was actually playing, it was very interesting: at times lively, at times sort of introspective, at times combatant, etc. It's all very expressive, and rounded out, and admirably so, but again, it was all sort of blur, without having a sort of motif to latch onto.

Thanks for sharing, this was really neat work :D