free full scores of famous pieces?

i've found this awesome site : http://imslp.org

which consists all composers and their scores, but some of them are still protected by copyright, heh, go figure :)

like the rite of spring of stravinsky.

i'm using it for studying purposes only, so its not really stealing.

anyone knows more sites?

Thanks for the link.

http://www.musopen.com is another site with free scores.

i've found this awesome site : http://imslp.org

which consists all composers and their scores, but some of them are still protected by copyright, heh, go figure :)

like the rite of spring of stravinsky.

i'm using it for studying purposes only, so its not really stealing.

anyone knows more sites?

i'm using it for studying purposes only, so its not really stealing.

Yes it is.

(Kind of moot, IMSLP doesn't have Rite of Spring)

It's not stealing depending on how much you are copying and what you are doing with it. There are Fair Use provisions, you know.

However, you'll have a hard time arguing that photocopying ALL of it is strictly for educational use. And usually "educational use" means teaching, not just studying. If you want all of it, you really should just buy the score. Think of it this way: if you're using Fair Provision as an excuse for some other end (like owning the entire score at no charge to you), it's probably illegal. People still do it, but just realize that it's an illegal photocopy.

Peace.

-Pete

However, you'll have a hard time arguing that photocopying ALL of it is strictly for educational use.

Well, you can argue it all you want, either way its illegal. There is a limit to how many pages can be photocopied for educational use (i.e. copying the entire thing is illegal no matter what).

There is a limit to how many pages can be photocopied for educational use (i.e. copying the entire thing is illegal no matter what).

Right.

From my understanding, most -if not all- of the scores on imslp are in the public domain. They take great care to ensure that the copyrights on the scores themselves have lapsed. If a work is on the site that has an active copyright it will not let you download it (I've seen this myself.) Besides, how is taking a score of a piece by Palestrina (who's been dead now about 400 or so years) stealing? He no longer is alive... there's no heirs alive of his anymore, so is it really theft?

We were talking about composers whose works are still under copyright. Stravinsky's works are still under copyright, he only died about 40 years ago.

Palestrina's works are PD (Public Domain) and thus can be legally downloaded, copied, arranged, etc.

The laws are a bit different once you look at EDITIONS or specific arrangements of PD works. The edition or arrangement could be under copyright.

You're right, IMSLP is pretty good about only allowing PD works to be uploaded to the site.

It would benefit people to read up on their copyright knowledge before claiming it's stealing ;)

IMSLP is and will always be only PD stuff - period.

Depending on the country the composers come from, the typical span from time of death to termination of copyright is from 70-80 years. HOWEVER!!!!! Russia has VERY different regulations on these matters, and one really has to know the individual cases to know. I doubt that IMSLP wouldn't know.

It would benefit people to read up on their copyright knowledge before claiming it's stealing ;)

Take your own advice.

IMSLP does look at country-specific copyright laws.

If you take Webern, for example, it clearly states that, while his works are protected in the EU and US, they're public domain in Canada and other countries. Thus, they're up with the assumption that only people in those countries willl download them.

This isn't always the case, as I, in the US, could download them. This is illegal.

I do follow my advice.... and where do you prove me wrong? You're actually proving me right.

There's also a Russian one: http://notes.tarakanov.net/ Use a translator.