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it's about outer space

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in what way is this game/film music? and the most important question: how does this portray your CONCEPT of outer space. I would really like that answered.

To me it plays to much on really old space clichés. Try to imagine outer space instead of imagining how outer space has previously been portrayed.

I think the sections go on for to long - your testing the patience of the audience. If you repeat something, add something to it.

The live piano part feels to disconnected with the rest. A huge part of it is a mix issue, but the timing is also a part. It can be made effectively, but when I search my computer for open browser windows and hidden players, I feel that it didn't succeed.

dude I've never been to outer space. how can I think of it without being influenced by other peoples' representations of it? My only experience with space IS other peoples' representations of it. The live piano feels disconnected because I did that on purpose. I used quintuplets to add discomfort... for me it would not be comfortable to be in space, so I tried to express that. Everyone is always bashing me for putting my music into the wrong categories... why? What is the correct one, then?

Hi Ness,

let's drop the 'dude-attitude' please. I'm trying to understand you. People have headaches from time to time, and I'm not one of yours.

The thing is: I would like to hear your personal interpretation of outer space. Use your imagination for this. The people your cliché-cally listening to didn't go to space either - they used their imagination. See the difference?

As I said: the mix of the piano is not succesful. Whether you used quintuplets or quarternotes doesn't matter. The disconnection may be gone if mixed properly - or played better (sorry to say)

and last but not least: I'm not bashing you for putting it in this category. To me game/film music is music written for the medium. So it was merely a question of: what movie/game have you written this for? What kind of scene?

Let's take that chill pill and get along.

Best

Thomas

respect for even commenting bryla :). I did not listen to your piece, for the simple reason that the title of your piece (untitled) doesn't really make me want to listen. Then your description doesn't really add to it either.

this is what I made on a whim. It's not for any medium at all. I thought I put it under 'experimental', but I guess it doesn't actually show that anywhere... sorry about that. I do get what you mean about the other people not going to space, they did use their imagination. I didn't mean to copy anybody. I didn't realize that I was playing on clichés, I think that was just your interpretation of it. But that's alright. I'll write another song about space sometime.

by the way, that isn't live piano

Made on a whim, but you obviously did want to show this to the rest of us. Why upload something you are not happy with in the first place (as it sounds from your comments)? You can defend your point of view, you cannot attack another person for having a different view :sleep:.

So I did like the first part of the song (especially up to 1:00, and the last few seconds of the song). It brought in mind the really really REALLY old black and white mickey mouse cartoons of the 20's/30's (Steamboat Willie!). I envisioned a big wooden spaceship (like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QOfEzkIm3s ) with steam coming out of it (like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REbZO82tkgw ) and the happy captain just doing his thing. After that it became more serious and more 'modern' sounding. I agree the midipiano could have been left out. Maybe even should have.

The category: this would be electronic I guess. Film/game music is music that is written with the purpose to be set under a scene. This song is more like electronic programmatic music, that is why I think the Electronic forum would be better.

by the way, that isn't live piano

uhh..... very sorry.........

thanks royreintjes, that's the kind of response I like to get! It's fun to see what other people envision from music :happy: It seems like my piano was pretty much a failure. I'll try to mix all of my instruments in with each other better next time

then tell us what you'll like to hear, and we'll copy+paste an answer.

the piano is mixed so that it sounds like a piano recorded in a bad room with a handheld recorder. That's why I thought it was a live a piano.

yeah I'm not disagreeing with you on the piano. It sucks. As I said, I like to know what the listener envisions... If all you envisioned was a cliche, then that's entirely my fault. Although I didn't intend to copy anything, I'll try to be more creative in the future. I don't want to attack other people for having different views. I do like constructive criticism though. People ought to mention what they liked, as well as what can be improved. It makes me feel kind of lousy when people only bring up the flaws in my music.

constructive criticism is not the same as balanced comments. I believe my comments are fairly constructive - they are in no way bashing.

well i think the whole tone of the people who commented here was a tiny bit over accusing somewhat. the worst reaction a person should get on his music is no reaction. if you guys didn't like it, and thought its just a whim, why did you bother to answer? oh..because you want to make him better, i know i'm taking on like 4 people, but i totally don't like it when people attack a person, and only because he posted an idea of music. if he hurt you in any way-then ok. if i don't like what i'm hearing, i move along, or if i have patience i tell him what's wrong, but not in an accusing tone like this. just tell him its the wrong forum, and besides-he did try to make it as game/film music.

in relation to your piece ness, i think you are brave in your ideas but they are not feeling so clear to stand out, the vibe is there somewhere-but no clear enough.

Hey, I gave it a listen and thought I could share some comments on what I would do/How I would approach it. If I spent my time listening I could just as well comment.

I'm not here to pamper.....geez one of the reasons *not* to come to YC

If I can just say, without hurting people feelings, that there are some real assholes on this forum, completely full of themselves.

On to your piece, I totally feel the space vibe. I really dig it. Its different, but in a good way. You've kept my interest throughout. Reminds me dead space :]. Great job! Keep up the good work my friend.

I think everyone is overreacting. Please just read Marius' pinned topic if you want critque and on how to give critique. It isn't that hard.

@ Adamich: I think composers are kind of narcistic, but that's only logical. If you aren't in love with your own piecesb(and with yourself for making them), noone will love your pieces. I guess that everyone here gives his owns pieces frequently a listen when you have just finished it, just because you like it. What's wrong with that? If you don't like your compositions, why bother making them? And even more important: why bother sharing them?

I think communities like these are great, and the only way to make it work is to help each other out. So if someone doesn't fit in the picture, it is only kind of us to comment on this, instead of saying nothing.

Everyone has to get to know how everything works here, so reaching out to help them is not wrong.