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Gliding Flow

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Hi i did this composition in a couple of days and this is my third one after From a Feast and Happy Swing.(plus today is my dad's birthday so this composition marks his birthday this year!) In this piece i experimented with the call-and-response element and unlike Happy Swing, this piece is not entirely homophonic(since Happy Swing is more inclined towards the classical period). I don't know whether to classify this piece under baroque or romanticism but it does sound romantic to me(maybe?). Okay and this piece is not that happy lol..some dark moments here and there. But it is still FUN to play! :D and for the last bar of the piece, there's a single low Dflat in the bass clef there. AND it was so funny HAHAHA LOL(maybe only to me)..anyway i hope you enjoy it and please comment =P thanks!P.S Although the Wav. file sounds less mechanical than the midi version, the notes sound messy so i decided to upload the midi file after all(clarity comes first before texture). However, midi doesn't include Pedal but yeah this piece is supposed to be played legato-ly. HAHA -CJ

Gliding Flow

I wish I could write as well as you at your age. You either have fantastic musical intuition or have educated yourself on theory by playing/looking at scores.

The first issue I have is just a matter of notation: there are parts where you have more rests than necessary. Look at bar 9, bar 11, etc.

I would also suggest to end this a little differently. After the B major section, you could repeat the first eight bars and then have a sort of climactic coda in the key of Db. The ending at the moment sounds a bit unsatisfying to me. Just a suggestion.

You're actually quite talented.

Hi i did this composition in a couple of days and this is my third one after From a Feast and Happy Swing.(plus today is my dad's birthday so this composition marks his birthday this year!) In this piece i experimented with the call-and-response element and unlike Happy Swing, this piece is not entirely homophonic(since Happy Swing is more inclined towards the classical period). I don't know whether to classify this piece under baroque or romanticism but it does sound romantic to me(maybe?). Okay and this piece is not that happy lol..some dark moments here and there. But it is still FUN to play! :D and for the last bar of the piece, there's a single low Dflat in the bass clef there. AND it was so funny HAHAHA LOL(maybe only to me)..anyway i hope you enjoy it and please comment =P thanks!

P.S Although the Wav. file sounds less mechanical than the midi version, the notes sound messy so i decided to upload the midi file after all(clarity comes first before texture). However, midi doesn't include Pedal but yeah this piece is supposed to be played legato-ly. HAHA

-CJ

Gliding Flow

Hi

I just listened to you piece, twice actually. Do not quite know what to make of it, still have not had time to read the score or play it through though. One thing is clear: I think you can hardly call this piece romantic, there is little or no romance in it. In my humble opinion, it sounds like a Bach-deriviation, well kind of at least. Do not know if its good, cannot say it is bad, I will have to listened to it again ...

Kind regards

WS

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-Hi Ian! haha thanks for your nice comment! Well, i don't really have fantastic musical intuition *blushing*..

And yea i just realised the rests are all over the place and not notated according to their value. I'll make changes to the pdf score soon! hmm, okay i'll try to expand on the coda alittle bit more so that the piece can establish itself in its tonic key completely. Thank you for your suggestion! :)

-Hi WS! right, I'll change it to Baroque! Thanks for telling me about it!(i don't have very sensitive ears that can detect the stylistic features explicitiy)

Thank you!

:):)

HAHAHA

It is hard for me to tell how you can improve, because our compositions are in different styles and I really cannot comment on a piece :) My analytical skills sucks, that is why I do so bad at critical listening and some... most parts of theory : P Haha, I only know so little : O Hehe.

I can only tell you good job again CJ :) (That is one good thing I can do, PRAISE PEOPLE) Hahahahaha :) And yes, the low Db was funny : D It was like a sudden abrupt "PLONK" : D Hehe.

-Daniel :)

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Lol you aren't bad on theory!!

LOL we think alike!! I wanted to write: "the Dflat note sounds like PONG" in the brief explanation box above!!!! HAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA anyway thanks!

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Lol you aren't bad on theory!!

LOL we think alike!! I wanted to write: "the Dflat note sounds like PONG" in the brief explanation box above!!!! HAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA anyway thanks!

Alright, lotsa positive comments here, so I'm going to be blunt.

1) It's harmonically very engaging.

2) the direct modulation doesn't work for me at all. It's striking and sudden and there's no reason for it to be. The texture is entirely sequential, you should be able to modulate smoothly. Unless you WANT a striking modulation. ...kinda uncharacteristic of the piece.

3) The texture is almost entirely sequential. To be honest, it's aesthetically boring. It's worse than a fugue in musical interest, because you really have no thematic material that you do anything with apart from the first lonely measure. The few instances where it does something different (e.g. m. 65-69), nothing happens with it.

4) Yes, it's closest to baroque in its texture. There's nothing really romantic about it at all. It seems like you had a fugue in mind when conceiving and writing this. I'd encourage you to create a more substantive and distinctive primary theme. Fugues are like big plates of spaghetti. The reexpositions (where the subject is restated) are like meatballs: they break up the monotony of endless sequences.

All that said, if you meant this to be an exercise, none of this would be a problem. But nothing you wrote in the blurb on this piece indicated that this is an etude.

Thanks for sharing! Very promising for your age and alleged lack of experience. ;)

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Hi Peter!

thanks for your comment!

Firstly, i didn't have the idea of a fugue in mind when i wrote this. I wasn't even thinking of utilising contrapuntal elements in this, and i seldom have two melody lines at the same time :P I just wrote whatever comes out of me...and like what i have said, i was experimenting in call and response so basically the main idea was not about musical aspects/technical aspects but just completely experimental. And yes, this wasn't meant to be an etude haha :P I ain't experienced enough to write one :)

. 2) the direct modulation doesn't work for me at all. It's striking and sudden and there's no reason for it to be. The texture is entirely sequential, you should be able to modulate smoothly. Unless you WANT a striking modulation. ...kinda uncharacteristic of the piece.

Hmm which specific modulation are you referring to? this is the scheme: Dflat major-Bflat minor-B major-Dflat major.

And M.65-69 was intended as a transition for the modulation back to the Dflat theme, that was why i decided nothing fanciful should be done there.

But someday maybe I would try to experiment and expand on fugues too. And bring out a clearer theme. Never really tried one before, but yes i will remember your advice :D Thanks! :)

.

Hey CJ!!

Well, if you think this piece is bad, you're WRONG! I like it quite a bit actually. :D

I do have to agree, it sounds Bach-like, not really romantic period. This is still to light and happy! hahaha

A few things:

I liked the B section, so I thought that it could have gone on a little bit longer.

The midi didn't do this justice, lol... it would sound 50000 times better legato, I think.

I wouldn't use E natural in the D flat parts, I think you should use F flat. Though, some people might not like that, haha... I just think it might be easier to read!

the harmonies you used worked very well. The call and answer thing, I think, doesn't really sound all that fuge like because it's "16th note run (treble), held note (bass)" and then the opposite of that. So, I think that this is a nice use of the call-answer thing.

The dflat at the end... LOL. it IS funny! :D It does sound like a "plunk" or a "pong" or whatever you want to call it. Nice little humorous end to the piece!

The 65-69 thing Peter noted could be expanded for sure! Though I don't agree that this is boring, haha

I think that this could even be a little set of piano pieces, if you like. But if not, this is a nice little piece on it's own :)

Thanks for posting!

Heckel/Hercules/****** (you know what I mean CJ :P)

I thought the modulation into the B Major (?) section at measure 58 was great, but the modulation out of it at measure 70 didn't sound so convincing to me. If you were going for a textbook, strict form, you should probably revise that. But if you don't care about such rules, (and it's a personal decision as to whether you want to be strict or not), you could probably just leave it as is and move on to whatever else you want to write :nod:

As for the piece as a whole, I find it pretty good! :) There's some really nice harmonic language and choices, and as Ian said and I've thought earlier, you seem to have an intuition for the music that makes it very attractive, in a way. As you get older, though, don't be surprised if your music starts to become darker and more "mature" sounding, for lack of a better word.

Or, maybe not. Maybe you really just are an incorruptibly, indomitably happy person :dunno: These are very rare, kind of like unicorns, but maybe you are.

Thanks for sharing, Oh Non-Emo One :phones:

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-Hi Heckel/Hercules/******!!! :rolleyes: (I sure you know what you mean)

YEAH it isn't a fugue at all :lol::lol: Glad you can tell!! And okay i will go and change the Enatural to Fflat. What do you mean by a set of piano pieces? You mean, including Happy Swing? HHAHA

And hahaha before the "pong" i will expand alittle on the coda but i will still keep this funny ending. ;)

Anyway thanks for your nice comment!! HAHAHAHA(hyper)

-CJ ******

-Hi Serge, I will try to expand m.70 alittle bit further and see what comes out of me.. :P I don't usually try to figure out the notes or scratch my head till the notes spill out HAHAHA It depends on my mood though HAHA anyway thanks for your understanding!! If one day i'm really depressed i can try composing darker music. My music always depends on my mood(at the time it is being written) HAHAHAHAHA

-Unicorn o.O

Haha CJ...... I actually meant if you composed more pieces like this, you could make a little set of piano pieces :) and if you got into Juilliard, I could play them!! hahaha

(secret name here) :D /Heckel

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HAHAHA okay Geleihamu i will consider your suggestion. (argh this thingy doesnt allow me to put smileyfaces. Alright then i should use HAHAHA to represent the smileyfaces). HAHAHA

Wow nobody actually played my pieces before(except myself) lol..it would be an honor!!

-(secret name hither)HAHA

Firstly, i didn't have the idea of a fugue in mind when i wrote this. I wasn't even thinking of utilising contrapuntal elements in this, and i seldom have two melody lines at the same time <img src="http://network.youngcomposers.com/elgg/ipb/public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif" alt=":P" /> I just wrote whatever comes out of me...and like what i have said, i was experimenting in call and response so basically the main idea was not about musical aspects/technical aspects but just completely experimental. And yes, this wasn't meant to be an etude haha <img src="http://network.youngcomposers.com/elgg/ipb/public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif" alt=":P" /> I ain't experienced enough to write one <img src="http://network.youngcomposers.com/elgg/ipb/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif" alt=":)" />

Whether you realize it or not, you had fugue form in mind when writing this. :) Trust me. So this is a compositional exercise? That would explain it.
Hmm which specific modulation are you referring to?

And M.65-69 was intended as a transition for the modulation back to the Dflat theme, that was why i decided nothing fanciful should be done there.

That one. It's not transitory enough. You may mean it to be a transition, but there is nothing transitory about the harmonies, which is what you need to help the modulation. M.70 is a direct key change and sounds striking.

HAHAHA okay Geleihamu i will consider your suggestion. (argh this thingy doesnt allow me to put smileyfaces. Alright then i should use HAHAHA to represent the smileyfaces). HAHAHA

Wow nobody actually played my pieces before(except myself) lol..it would be an honor!!

-(secret name hither)HAHA

LOL. Yea this doesn't look to hard to play! Maybe I should practice it and find out... haha :D

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lolll haha my pieces are all very easy to play..:D they must be playable by me first..and im a lousy player..HAHAHA

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http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Goetschius%2C%20Percy%2C%201853-1943%22

Counterpoint applied in the invention, fugue, canon and other polyphonic forms; an exhaustive treatise on the structural and formal details of the polyphonic or contrapuntal forms of music, for the use of general and special students of music - Goetschius, Percy, 1853-1943

Free download. It'll help you with your counterpoint. There are other free books as well. Enjoy

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AWW THANK YOU TICKTOCKFOOL AND I LIKE YOUR NAME TOO SOUNDS SO SILLY IN A NICE WAY =) =)

Yes i believe the counterpoint resources can be very useful to my future works. ^^ thanks so much!

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