ChristianPerrotta Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 So the premisse is: composing a 10-bars piano miniature (the title is really self-explanatory). How can you develop a musical idea in few measures? Important observations: repetiton marks ARE NOT ALLOWED!!! Do not put Dal Segno, Rittornello or anything else that simply repeats. Each measure must be played only once. Also, you can easily "cheat" the rules by using a really big time signature, like 50/2, and a very slow tempo, and lots of semiquivers. It's not valid! I don't want to put the strict limits about which time signatures and tempi are allowed, but be honest to yourself, hehe. The deadline is October 10th (one week). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morivou Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Why so short? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianPerrotta Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 Conciseness (I don't even know if this word exists). I saw once in a recital from the Course of Composition (in the University) some piano miniatures that had to be composed within few bars (I don't remember if only 10). I've proposed this challenge to se if YC composers can deal with such a limited amount of measures and still convince with a musical idea. That is: to be concise and still musical (here, the concept of "concise" was taken to an extreme; I've thought about even fewer bars (8-bars), as Czerny did in his Op. 821; althou it's a educational work, for piano students, I liked it and decided to challenge the composers to write few bars with good musical quality, not only for educational purposes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morivou Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 No.. I meant WHY is the deadline tomorrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianPerrotta Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 I wanted a short time to a short composition. But, in fact, it may not work, as people won't see this in time.... =/ I'll change it to one week (i.e., new deadline = October 10th) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theviolinist7 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I had a piece that I literally had written (quite a while ago) in a couple of days that is only 8 measures long. It isn't really for a specified instrument, and it is already uploaded on YoungComposers. Is it eligible or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianPerrotta Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 Well, theviolinist7, the rules are: 10 bars and piano. You could adapt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lab Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Might be able to submit something... What is the slowest tempo/time signature limit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austenite Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I've got something in mind already. I really begun my compositional "career" by writing very short piano snippets, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuohey Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Count me in, this sounds like it could be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dostoprimo Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 This is a cool idea. I think I'm going to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrcramer Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I might try this as well. In a break, during my otherwise way too busy internship :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianPerrotta Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 What is the slowest tempo/time signature limit? As I said in the beginning, I don't really want to put strict limits on it, I just don't want people to exaggerate with an enormous time signature (ex: 120/2) and a very slow tempo (like whole-note = 10 bpm). These are NOT limits, but extreme examples of exaggeration. Just be fair with the purpose of being concise. You could pick a commonly used time signature, or a not so usual one. Just don't "create" the space for too many notes, in attempt to compensate the small quantity of measures. If you believe you're following the "rules" (and people from YC too), that's OK^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luderart Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Nice challenge. I completed and posted my piece. Here it is: http://www.youngcomposers.com/music/3370/10-bar-piano-miniature/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhmuhmuhmusic Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 http://www.youngcomposers.com/music/3374/interlude-no-1/ Here is my submission. That was rather entertaining to do, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austenite Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Challenge taken ;) ... This is my submission: http://www.youngcomposers.com/music/3375/epigram-in-c-from-six-piano-pieces-op-3/ Please enjoy and comment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theviolinist7 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 This isn't the piece I was talking about before, but here is the piece. http://www.youngcomposers.com/music/3377/miniature-no-1/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojar Voglar Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I don't think you can do it much better than Czerny's opus 821. :veryunsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrcramer Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I don't think you can do it much better than Czerny's opus 821. :veryunsure: Oh please no, stop it :) it's the dummies guide to Schenkerian Analysis, and it bores me to death... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.fseventsd Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I don't think you can do it much better than Czerny's opus 821. :veryunsure: Anton von Webern disagrees >.> 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuohey Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I agree. Not that I think I could do any better than Czerny but they're called exercises for a good reason! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojar Voglar Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Anton von Webern disagrees >.> Yeah, you could be right. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dostoprimo Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I went 1 bar over the limit... in my defense, though, the last bar just has a whole note, and I didn't use any note lengths shorter than a quarter note! :) http://www.youngcomp...e-3-in-c-minor/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morivou Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 WOW! That was incredible Dosto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dostoprimo Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 @Morivou oh you! :blush: Glad you liked it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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