Piano Concerto No.1, Op.2

This two movements are great! :)

Dynamic parts, continue changes, or simply... many beatiful melodies at the same time. There's only a bit of monotony.

They're very good works and it's the first time that I have said it to a non famous autor; so continue on this way.

There's only one thing that I have to say: for my personal taste, the ideal music is that of Mozart, because he was able to create extremely beautiful melodies with a particular taste, which made his compositions a universal music language. This two great works you realized, sounds very elegant, they are perfect under a formal view, so I'm talking about the structure of these pieces, but you have only to develope the melodic side, in order to make each person of the world able to understand the beauty of your works: that's is the final target of a composer. You have to "surprise" your listener and it can be possible also with a few notes.

I'm sure you will understand what I'm talking about.

You have also to broke that monotony which is created in these two pieces after a while: so, again, develope the melodic side, insert unexpected "eary" (sorry for the translation) melodies and you will like more your compositions. And listen to Mozart. :sweat:

This piece has nothing to do with Mozart stylistically.

This piece has nothing to do with Mozart stylistically.

Is it referred to my post? I haven't said that. :closedeyes:

You stated that he should listen to Mozart for improvement. That's not his style.

Yes, I'm talking about melody, not about style: my advice was simply to create melodies which "jump directly to the ear", which have a kind of "childlike character", melodies which can be understanded and appreciated by a totally ignorant listener, as Mozart done, not to emulate his style.

In fact Andrew has a great style, but he must broke that monotony which is caused not by repeating, but by a "lack of melody": the two movements, after a while, become boring, there's nothing "surprising" to listen to after some minutes, the music seems to develope in something which can't "wake up" the listener.

Hope to have explained correctly my idea.

Since when do you even need great melodies to make great music? Especially child-like melodies.

This question can be answered only with an other question: what is the ideal music? A music which is based only on stylistic and structural perfection, or a music which combines these characteristics with "great melodies"?

I think that is the second one.

And then: what is the perfect melody? Someone might say that it is subjective, but in my opinion it isn't, because all humans have the same possibilities to understand music, their judgement is different because of their experience of life, their education etc. etc.

But if you try to ask for what it is better between a Mozart's (or Bach's) piece and a Chopin's one (for example), to a totally ignorant listener, I'm shure he would always answer Mozart. This is because Mozart set his melody more in evidence and are not as "hidden", "introvert" and "dark" as Chopin's melodies.

It would be interesting to create a poll on this forum: I remember a poll on an other forum of common listeners, the results confirmed my thought.

Mozart had a "child-like" way of composing his melodies because he born as a musician in young age, as you know, with the pure mind of a child; that remained his composing style for the rest of his short life and this also made his lucky.

Actually, it had more to do with the stylistic conventions of the day.

Wagner's 'melodies' are nothing but motifs, extremely short and not memorable, but his music is fantastic by the way he uses them.

Yes, both Chopin and Wagner are great composers, there's no doubt, but people generally prefers Mozart and Bach because their music goes directly to the mind and to the heart, without requiring any theoretical knownledge, it's the same concept which is behind pop music.

Of course, for the perfect understanding of their music, theory is a necessary condition.

Hope this would be helpful to members who read this page.

I was talking about people who have not studied music, simple listeners: they usually prefer what is easy to understand.

P.S. Sei italiano?

Or perhaps they (those not musically trained) hear what is most humanly likable whereas trained musicians and composers listen and like different styles because they think it is more intriguing. I think Mozart and Bach are appreciated because of their immense emotion. What people call emotional now (music of the Romantic era) is a bunch of swooning dynamics; Mozart and Bach were able to write emotional music with the basics (melody, counterpoint, harmony etc.)

P.S.

DEUTSCHLAND

So what? Didn't Stravinsky write for money? Tschaikowski? Prokofiev? Music is run by money!

A subtle mixture of originality and Brahms, with a smidgen of Henry Litolff's "Scherzo Symphonique" for piano and orchestra - comes to mind here. Some of these textures seem to roll and flow with eaze (not that midi is a great medium.) Overall good job. Any ideas for a 3rd movement yet??

Or perhaps they (those not musically trained) hear what is most humanly likable whereas trained musicians and composers listen and like different styles because they think it is more intriguing. I think Mozart and Bach are appreciated because of their immense emotion. What people call emotional now (music of the Romantic era) is a bunch of swooning dynamics; Mozart and Bach were able to write emotional music with the basics (melody, counterpoint, harmony etc.)

P.S.

DEUTSCHLAND

Si, dicevo oltre oceano rispetto all'Italia, quindi in America. :sadtears:

Ok, tutto chiaro ora.

well talking about this piano concerto again, I think it's a fantastic piece, although I noticed somebody mentioned it needs to "breathe" more, and I agree. Maybe slowing the tempo slightly during the solo piano passages, although I'm sure if it was a real performer playing the piece, they could shape it, giving it more flow and ultimately doing the piece justice.

I can hear some Zelda Overture in there ;) Overall, it's very interesting.. I like it.

well done, romantic, the writing is pretty original, good melodies.

8/10

i like it very much too

dark-happy

can i see your score too

i like it very much too

dark-happy

can i see your score too

Considering he hasn't even logged in in almost two years, I'm guessing there won't be much chance of that. :whistling:

He has a myspace page..duh. Ask him there.

hi

i think , these are a good movement . you should try to complete it as well , i think the piano concerto have 3 movements but you only got 2 movements only

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