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That's covered by the "Musicologist" badge. Google: "Musicology is the scholarly study of music, exploring its history, cultural contexts, theory, and social impact, encompassing all musical traditions from classical to popular music, beyond just performance. It uses various methods, including analysis, history, and anthropology, to understand how music functions in life, its development over time, and its relationship with psychology, sociology, and other fields. Traditionally divided into historical, systematic, and ethnomusicology, modern musicology is broad and interdisciplinary, focusing on meaning, practices, and the "web of culture" surrounding music."
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Kvothe replied to PeterthePapercomPoser's topic in Announcements and Technical Problems
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How would this be related to music? Seems like an award for anybody who might write an essay about any topic. But there are already existing awards for "Musicologist" or "Ardent Reviewer" or "Theory Buff" or "Musical Debator" or "Programmatic Composer" or "Musical Advisor" and those awards have specific musical cases in which they apply.
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Kvothe replied to PeterthePapercomPoser's topic in Announcements and Technical Problems
Correct! Let us say YC hosted a formal competition, entries have to meet the core requirements before proceeding further. If They fail to meet that, they won't proceed. Formal competitions usually require a score with a audio file. Last time I check, Suno does not cut it. It would be rejected. As I have said multiple times, no one in the industry uses Suno. - Today
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Crescent Roulade started following Which Major Key should I put this song in?
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Thank you so much for the thoughtful feedback.
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JP S. started following Solo Ave Maria
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Heyo! This came to me when I was on a pilgrimage back to my Catholic college immediately when I saw the Marian Grotto. Could you please let me know especially if the piano part could use any work, or if you think there’s a musically fitting way to reduce the range of the song? I just used my headphones to record, so if you have any free recording tips I’d appreciate them too. Thanks in advance. The first video is of the whole arrangement, and the second has strings backing the melody so you can hear what it’s meant to sound like especially in the low range.
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therealAJGS started following Poll concerning AI sub-forum and List of Manually-Awardable Badges
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I especially love the meditative prelude. The section beginning at mm. 26 with repeated notes and chromatic harmony is extremely elegant and tasteful. The bass line is particularly well-written, and patterns like mm. 51-53 brings subtle drama. The entire piece is playable too! Personally I think some reordering/transposing/rerun of the material here would give the piece better cohesiveness. The reappearance of the quaver-dominated opening material at mm. 15 for example can be in the dominant or relative key, and rerunning it again later (though maybe not in its entirety), particularly near the end brings not only unity but also some excellent contrast to the surrounding French overture rhythms.
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Poll concerning AI sub-forum
therealAJGS replied to PeterthePapercomPoser's topic in Announcements and Technical Problems
I think that Ai music is just pure laziness and Is probably one of Three things. 1: I want to win a competition and have a good reputation. 2: I'm just Trying to make a non - Ai song but I want to have some sort of sound effect/thing that I can't get normally, or Three: I'm just pure laziness or not an actual composer. I think that All AI generated/refined Music should be completely banned, with one exception: if the AI did a very small thing like making a sound effect used once or It tells you which note sounds better after a certain one or something. If the actual MUSIC part is generated by AI or almost all of your lyrics (If you have any) should be banned; But if your just playing around and say that it was Ai, and it is not serious it might be allowed. (For 3 I chose other, I think that if someone's music is AI, they should just say so.) oh and It would be really stupid to use AI detection to see if pieces were AI but moderating might work. -
Prose Poem #36 for Wind Quintet in B-flat ("Lonian"/Lydian b7+3)
PaavolaPyry replied to PaavolaPyry's topic in Chamber Music
Thank you @PeterthePapercomPoser, very kind words! I have no idea why Musescore decided not to label the instruments, haven't had this issue before, and I only noticed it now😅. I'll check out Mahler. The inspiration came from a simple sort of I-bVII-II-bVII-I idea that was looping in my mind for some reason and somehow I ended up in this obscure scale while experimenting. Difficulty was to avoid it collapsing into an F major sound, but I think I managed to avoid that for the most part - although the tonic is unclear to me for most of the time. As you are a clarinetist I'd like to ask, how would you prefer the fingerings to be shown? Should I stick a chart into the score? And how about the multiphonic in the end (just requires you to go a bit further down on the mouthpiece and adjust pressure): Idea is that both tones would be present. Thanks! -
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Kvothe replied to PeterthePapercomPoser's topic in Announcements and Technical Problems
1. When it comes to platforms like Suno, that should be regulated: it should not be used in competitions, detection should be used, and if there is abused it should be banned. When it comes mock ups in the Daw or in notation (Note perfomer, vst, etc): For the composer plays the notes into the program, and such. Sometimes, we do get lucky and have live performance. I think it would be cool, if there was sub forum to share our live performances. 2. A pianist and composer, I'd prefer if someone who did not use AI. 🙂 3. I agree with @UncleRed99 Idea. In traditional music, you can generally see the key, meter, and etc, but with lyrical songs we can't see that. -
Henry Ng Tsz Kiu started following Recitative: Nun verlaß ich diese Hütte
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Absolutely! It's a real pain in the arse to do in Musescore though 😄 It's added to my to-do list (along with some dynamics shadings). I'm acutely aware of the problems of creating actually good-sounding music and I'm very grateful for you pointing this out. One of the nice things about the Baroque ritornello theme in a vocal context, is that your theme does not even need to be singable. The tenor aria from BWV 81 provides a particularly striking example. A common and easy solution for this problem is to just have your soloist sing an independent melody in counterpoint with the ritornello theme whenever it is reused. I've attached an example of this technique for my aria.
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expert21 replied to PeterthePapercomPoser's topic in Announcements and Technical Problems
My view on the matter is that while any pieces of "music" that are generated using tools like Suno should be completely banned, the use of AI tools like Cantai to generate mock-ups from midi or notation should be allowed as they are not really any different from generating a mock-up using sound samples (as others have already said). With regards to the issue of how we should go about detecting AI "music", I like @UncleRed99's idea, though I recognise @TristanTheTristan's concern that asking for technical music theory things like starting keys/time signatures may unfairly exclude composers who do not work in theory/notation heavy genres. I propose that we require users to write a short description of their piece naming some musical elements/techniques that were used (e.g. chord progressions, instrumentation etc.) alongside any additional details they might want to mention, like maybe what inspired them? -
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AngelCityOutlaw replied to PeterthePapercomPoser's topic in Announcements and Technical Problems
Probably, but it's not actually doing anything that isn't already a standard feature really in drum kits for years. Premade beats. I would point out that on marketplaces like gamedev market, they forbid AI art assets, but allow composers to use AI cover art. -
Recitative: Nun verlaß ich diese Hütte
PeterthePapercomPoser replied to muchen_'s topic in Choral, Vocal
Hi @muchen_! I am not an expert on the Baroque style, recitatives, arias nor cantatas, but I feel like the recitative could have been more humanized through liberal use of hidden tempo changes in order to make it sound more like an accompanied cadenza and in free time which I'm assuming that that's how recitative are supposed to be like. This rendition sounds very metronomic which hurts my impression of it. I like the aria a lot though! Although between bars 8 - 14 the singer doesn't seem to have any opportune place to breathe and it's hard to imagine those 6 measures sung in one breath although I could be wrong. Other than that I really enjoyed it though! Great job and thanks for sharing! -
Hi @PaavolaPyry and welcome back to the forum! I think the solo Clarinet line dancing microtonally around a single central tone in the beginning sets the stage well for the piece that follows and is yielded from that beginning line. I feel the piece is very logical and cohesive. I can listen to it many times in a row and not get bored of it - which I usually cannot do with an unaccompanied solo piece. But this isn't unaccompanied and only starts that way which is a very entrancing way to start a piece that eventually becomes a Wind Quintet (although for some reason the instruments aren't labeled in your score? Assuming that it's for Flute, Oboe, Clarinet, French Horn, and Bassoon). The harmony is dissonant but in a deliberate way that is very digestible (at least to me). It somewhat reminds me of the slow Adagio movement of Mahler's 10th Symphony (the one movement he actually finished himself). The microtones on the Clarinet don't seem to disturb the harmony but enhance it. It's around the 4 minute mark where your Clarinet melody reminds me of Mahler 10 (measure 51). I am a Clarinetist myself but haven't played in a while and wouldn't dream of using these extended techniques that you've employed here - but you're informed by your own experimentation so by all means keep going! Great job and thanks for sharing!
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PeterthePapercomPoser started following Recitative: Nun verlaß ich diese Hütte
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This is a secco recitative in the late Baroque style for alto, part of my cantata WIP. The text is taken from Goethe's Die schöne Nacht. An example translation of the text can be found here. I have also attached a little preview of its paired aria 🙂
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A short Sonata in D Major for Cembalo
Willibald replied to Willibald's topic in Piano Music, Solo Keyboard
Thanks, @Henry Ng Tsz Kiu, for your kind words. I took up your suggestion and tried to compose a fitting end for this set. So without further ado: a draft for a fast-paced 2/4-Presto with the basic structure |: A :| b1 b2 b3 |: A : |: c1 : | c2 |: A :| The audio file needs some polishing. Any comments welcome. -
Poll concerning AI sub-forum
Wieland Handke replied to PeterthePapercomPoser's topic in Announcements and Technical Problems
1. How do you feel about including AI generated music on YCF? In my opinion, AI generated music is misplaced in the general submission threads and competitions/events on this forum, since the purpose of the forum is to exchange about the composition process, results, difficulties etc. (and not about which music one likes or not). However, to ban it completely would mean to neglect a tendency which is now existing and will further increase in the future. Thus, a special, separated sub-forum could be a compromise, but I have to admit that @muchen_ 's objection and demand for quarantine cannot be dismissed out of hand. 3. If we decide to regulate AI music, how should we detect it? I am (strongly) opposed to the use of online AI detection tools, as they can lead to “false positives” and, in my opinion, their use contradicts the goal of publishing and reviewing only high-quality, human created compositions in this forum. Therefore, the judgement can only be done in the same way as requested for the submissions. With this background, the distinction between genuine compositions and compositions generated (wholly or partly) by AI can only be achieved by making the composition process used by individual members more transparent. One idea could be to create a special section in the forum where each member can post their own topic explaining in detail how they normally work, including the notation software they use, the type of recording (either live recording or with which DAW software), etc. I think anyone who intends to regularly publish works in the forum would appreciate it if others could take a look behind the scenes, so that we could learn a lot from each other. A regular submission of a piece could then include a link to this explanatory post and should, of course, include a PDF score, an MP3 audio, possibly an intermediary MIDI file, a brief description of the musical form, key, time signature, instrumentation, etc., as well as a little background information about the inspiration and idea behind the piece. I think, that if we could encourage members to post their contributions in this way, the overall quality of the forum would improve and, more importantly for the submitters, it would be easier for reviewers to familiarize themselves with the pieces, which would certainly lead to more and profound reviews. (I say that also with the background that some members tend to „flood“ the forum with a dozen of uncommented posts at once – which might be fine but not necessarily leads to many or instant reviews. Sometimes, less is more.) I don't know if such a procedure could be introduced as a “rule,” perhaps more as a “recommendation.” However, if the “experienced” members were to post in this way, they could serve as example for the others. -
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