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What's up y'all I got a request from one of my followers to transcribe "Tip of the Spear" from the Halo: Reach soundtrack. More or less just for fun. Nothing commercial or to be performed. And It's something I'm doing to better understand music all together, as an autodidact composer/arranger. I'm having trouble with writing the drumset part of the piece. If anyone can get me started in the right direction I'd highly appreciate it! I will attach the .mscz file and the audacity file I'm using as the reference material. The track is cut into different parts in audacity, with each part labeled with what the section of the sound contains. You should be able to find it relatively easily đ (In order to attach the files as they are meant to be used, I've compressed them into a Zip file and created a share-link via OneDrive. Should be able to access it without a login, just fine. If there's any trouble, just reply to this thread and let me know :)) Tip of the Spear.zip And for those who don't want to download the file, or don't have musescore, attached is a PDF and mp3 playback of the current progress on the transcription, to ease the access for everyone. Here is also a YouTube link to a good reference. Timestamp: 1:15 Tip of the Spear.pdf Tip of the Spear.mp3
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Schumann orchestration (Child Falling Asleep)
Alex Weidmann replied to Alex Weidmann's topic in Orchestral and Large Ensemble
Many thanks JP for writing such a detailed review! You make some great points. I think the flute is often too dominant in MuseScore, and find myself always having to mark down the dynamics. Probably should've lowered them more here. The subdominant ending is actually resolved back to the tonic in the final movement of this piano suite. (Otherwise it would be almost unheard of in Schumann's era to end on iv.) However I think in the modern era, it sounds ok to end on an unresolved chord. Some people have taken exception to my use of vibraphone and glockenspiel; though I feel both those instruments have a dreamy quality that's quite evocative of sleep. Apparently the whole suite has been orchestrated by Lucien Cailliet; though I haven't listened to that version. Will definitely take to heart your critique when I revisit this orchestration, and for future ones. -
Waltz No.1 in A Minor for Piano
JorgeDavid replied to JorgeDavid's topic in Piano Music, Solo Keyboard
Long time no see, @PeterthePapercomPoser. Exactly around 6 months! Hope everything is going great! I was really busy and ran into another musical hiatus where I could not practice or study at all, but I finally restarted it last week. I was planning to focus on learning, instead of composing, as I want to improve my technique and also go through some partimento (rule of the octave, schematas, etc) and jazz practicing. But, after 3 days of piano, I happened to compose again đ Now that I am practicing again I will try to browse more often through the forum, I have seen you have kept on with your microtonal pieces! Thanks for your feedback! I also like that from the piece. I always had a tendency to use cross relations without even realizing, particularly in counterpoint, as I enjoyed the sound but in this piece, that G/G# one surprised me (I realized once I composed it), since it is on the same beat and on a strong beat. I think my ear grew used to major seventh dissonances from when I learned a little bit of jazz đ Thank you so much for commenting! -
Waltz No.1 in A Minor for Piano
JorgeDavid replied to JorgeDavid's topic in Piano Music, Solo Keyboard
Thank you so much for letting me know about the notation error, @Kvothe! Because of the grouping the first bar (and similar ones) might be understood as 6/8. I did not know it but now I totally understand it. Thanks for noticing! I will fix it for the final version. Also, regarding the tempo, I guess I could get rid of tempo marking since the expression marks such as "agitato" might be enough to convey the mood of the piece. Sadly, I do not know any pianist, so I cannot get real-life feedback, but I will try to find out about how tempo markings are normally used! For this piece, do you have any particular suggestion about which tempo marking would fit best? Thanks for commenting! -
Waltz No.1 in A Minor for Piano
JorgeDavid replied to JorgeDavid's topic in Piano Music, Solo Keyboard
Thank you so much for the feedback and I am glad you liked it, @TristanTheTristan, I really appreciate it! Regarding the tempo, I am curious about what is the convention with Waltzes. As far as I know, I am using the metronome at around 180bpm if I consider each quartet note as the beat (so three beats per measure). Or is it maybe common in Waltzes to consider the bpm as the first beat of each measure or to consider other particular measure (such as feel of the music)? Thanks for all the feedback of the parts you liked the most! And yes, there is a few notes that are different because I am constantly changing a few notes here and there and I will record it when it is completed. But 99% of the piece is going to stay as it is. Regarding the bar 93, I understand it is a weird bar. It is just a repetition of the same material already played (first in Amaj, now in Dmaj), so the bass note should be A, to have a diatonic F#min chord with the third on the bass moving diatonically. However, in that particular context I like much more the A# in the bass, I am not sure why. It does create a F#7 chord with the natural A on top. The fact that the bass moves from A# to G is strange, but I do like it. But I can imagine most performers would actually change the A# into an A thinking it is a mistake đ I am aware of that bar and might consider changing the bass note to the A. But for now I like it better this way. Thanks for noticing it! I also enjoy that part and, both the Maestoso together with the set of bars that you pointed out are my favorite part of the piece! Glad you enjoyed it too! Yes, the ending is quite overwhelming. I am not good at writing Codas but I am going to extend it for the final version, even if it is only a couple of extra bars. The ending now sounds too rushed and probably a few more bars to let the ending breath will improve it. 8.5/10 is really good!! Thank you so much for your encouragement and the nice words!! Thanks for listening and commenting! -
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Schumann orchestration (Child Falling Asleep)
JP S. replied to Alex Weidmann's topic in Orchestral and Large Ensemble
Hey Alex! First of all great job working at orchestrations. I saw youâve done a number of them, and as someone newer to composing I think theyâre a high quality way to practice and grow. I myself do arrangements of pop songs for Pep Band, which is a very similar process, so I get the concept. I think youâve done a high quality job in many areas. Youâve got the piece generally laid out, with variations in timbre. The repetition had a semi-lulling effect, yet there was also variation to keep up interest. Youâve got generally nice timbre choices and pairings. I can tell you have a composerâs intuition:) It was a pleasant piece to listen to overall, so you didnât do terribly:) To provide what I can to hopefully help you take it to the next level, I listened to your piece several times & a recording on YouTube of someone playing the piano version. In my opinion & sense, the original piece edges on a little too repetitive, but it does gain traction at about measure 8 when things start feeling developmental. It does have a kind of lulling effect though, so I think he achieved his purpose, but in my preference I wouldnât encourage the composition to have any more length or repetition. Hereâs my understanding of the original: it seems to actually have two melodies going on simultaneously, playing on each other the whole time, with the other notes providing warmth & fullness. He does a 4 bar A theme twice, then changes to the relative major on a big chord. I liked how the pianist did a little rubato at the transition, because otherwise it would just sound like a major sudden change with no warning, which would feel offputting here. Then he has a 4 bar cascading, what feels like an almost inversion of the previous, repeated (similar to the beginning). It feels like a reprise, concluding & transitioning. That section has large moving chords on the downbeats, and can kind of feel like the ending music of a movie scene. Then he has a iii chord, which I thought he was going to modulate to that key, but he continued developing for 4 bars ending on the B (V of E again). But he goes into a CM7 chord with the melody for 4 bars, the bVI no 5th, which to me feels minor. It ends on a B chord with cascading notes that feels like a cadence, into the final section. Itâs an 8 bar near restatement of the A theme, which feels relieving and longed for. Then it ends on the iv, with sudden long chords, which to me just makes me question if whether the child fell asleep or not. Relative to your composition, and recognizing youâve already done a good job and my comments are just trying to help you get that last 10% to make it pop, I think your timbre changes felt simultaneously too much and too little. At first I didnât know what to comment, but I think you almost tried to apply film score, quick drastic timbre changes to a slow, lullaby-like, repetitive piece. I think if you were more clear & distinct about your timbre changes, especially using them on the 8 (or less often the 4) bar marks & to mark harmonic changes where he has them, that would help encourage the natural cadence of the piece. My two favorite timbres you used were the low woodwinds with clarinet melody, and the string ensemble. I also think the horn melody was a nice additional change, but it was much brighter & more poignant than the other timbres, so I think it would fit more on the 2nd set of 8 bars, or other more in-your-face moments. Whatever you do, keep the melody on one instrument through the phrase instead of changing so often. The second thing that would help would be the transitions. Ryan Leach on YouTube has a great video on writing transitions: I think both introducing newer elements earlier, and utilizing the more prominent changes (like the large, slow, cascading chords at m.8) in a prominent way will both make the sections fit more together like a natural puzzle. The last minor thing would be trying to make the upper & lower melodies equally as present, with the harmonies quieter behind. Itâs a small thing that would make a big difference in this piece, but I think the flute was too loud, and I lost the lower melody over time. Great job, and please let me know if these helped at all. Happy composing! -
I wouldnât say anything negative about 5, I more so think a fast 4th (between the current 2nd and 3rd) movement would do a lot of justice to this piece. The last movement you showed has lots of beauty to it, my only consideration is many beautiful movements in a row detracts from their beauty. When you are able to compare the beautiful and the âuglierâ movements, it makes those beautiful moments all the more moving, and same with the fast movements. I honestly would gladly listen to any of your current movements in person if I had the chance, they are wonderful. Just because you wrote something that is hard, doesnât mean its bad, otherwise most of the best music would be no good. I will say one thing, in my opinion (as a vocalist) if you have a solo voice singing with an orchestra, you should utilize the voice at least 60% of the time. This is not something that Iâm totally sure everyone will agree with me on but Iâll explain my reasoning. In a concerto or soloist oriented orchestra performance, the soloist must stand infront of the orchestra. Particularly for singers, their job is to emote and show the emotions of the music. When you have a singer on the stage, they are the only face not in their music. They look directly at the audience. Long interludes of 2+ minutes are incredibly difficult to keep the audienceâs attention. And if the singers sits and then later stands it cannot be acted through. Film music gets away with the soprano coming in out whenever they want, but I believe this should not happen on stage, simply out of a desire to tell a story, in what I believe, is the most convincing way. Iâd be curious on other peopleâs thoughts on this.
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Sonata no 18 in F sharp major ( Binary form)
Vasilis Michael replied to Vasilis Michael's topic in Piano Music, Solo Keyboard
"Thank you so much, Iâm really glad you liked it. In the past few years, I had really explored his sonatas and I was blown away by how incredibly stylish and ahead of his time they were. He truly became the greatest source of inspiration for me. So far, Iâve written 20 sonatas in this style, although in most of them thereâs a mix of Scarlatti, Mozart, and Schubert. But the combination left me amazed by the result." -
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@PeterthePapercomPoser, thank you for listening and your helpful (and very kind) feedback!
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Sonata no 18 in F sharp major ( Binary form)
bkho replied to Vasilis Michael's topic in Piano Music, Solo Keyboard
Very nice. I'm a big admirer of Scarlatti myself, definitely hear the inspiration here. - Yesterday
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PeterthePapercomPoser started following Sonata no 18 in F sharp major ( Binary form)
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Thank you for your feedback @PeterthePapercomPoser! The clarinetist who played it is named Jacob Wolf. He only made a home recording; Unfortunately, the piece was never premiered in any recital or concert. I don't remember which competition I entered this piece in, but I'm sure it didn't win any awards :).
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Vasilis Michael started following Sonata no 18 in F sharp major ( Binary form)
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Here is one of my favorite sonatas in binary form, inspired by the colossal Scarlatti, who is also the reason I started composing music systematically over the past two years. Itâs a blend of Scarlattiâs style but also includes elements from other classical composers. A very playful sonata with quite a few unexpected modulations that make it even more humorous⌠I hope you enjoy it.
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Waltz No.1 in A Minor for Piano
PeterthePapercomPoser replied to JorgeDavid's topic in Piano Music, Solo Keyboard
Hey @JorgeDavid! Long time no see! I think this is a very quaint little waltz that you've performed yourself! I don't think you're having as many troubles performing it as you make us think saying that you "need more practice"! LoL My favorite parts of this are the unexpected cross relations between the melody and bass like in bars 4 and 20. In bar 4 you have a G natural in the melody contradicted by a G# in the bass while in bar 20 you have a D in the melody with a D# in the bass - great idea! Usually these kinds of cross relations would be heard as mistakes in A minor but you used them deliberately and made them sound intended and I really enjoyed them! Great job and thanks for sharing! P.S.: I think even if you were using a notation program to realize a rendition of this instead of performing it yourself - in Musescore, for example, I would liberally use rit.'s and accel.'s to make the tempo sound more rubato and humanized. -
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As Tristan mentioned, the tempo is slower than presto. When Chopin wrote his, he rarely used a tempo marking. The engraver added them later; or it was up to performer. So my suggestion would be is: have a pianist play through and then ask for feedback from them. Ask him or her, what tempo should you mark and other feedback. I notice the notation error. You are using a hemolia: a doted quarter followed by three 8ths grouped together. do not that. It makes it appear you are in 6/8 and not in 3/4.
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Waltz No.1 in A Minor for Piano
TristanTheTristan replied to JorgeDavid's topic in Piano Music, Solo Keyboard
Hi there. Let's go to the point right away. Firstly, Nice waltz! I really enjoyed listening. There seems to be a problem too, by the start. It is definitely not Presto. The Bpm is more like 112 (I use a metronome). Presto is kind of like 180 Bpm. If you want a Presto, I would recommend writing something like the following: Presto (c. 112). Secondly, I could definetely hear Chopin here! The ideas at bar 18 and 38 is also very good. Thirdly, cantabile part seems nice. The immediate transition to G Major and back to A minor is extremely nice. Although in a Major Key beginning, it still keeps a melancholic atmosphere. The bars 49-56 area's texture is favorable. Bar 62 is played wrong. You forgot to play the (appogiatura) B natural. Fourthly, From Vivace, there is a Key signature change, which I like. Again the tempo is played wrong. Bar 93 does not make sense Lastly, from maestoso, I really like the texture. Bar 116 is one of my favourite bars in this composition! Then, it is go to the start up to the Coda mark. The coda is not long enough, though. Could be longer. In conclusion, You have great composition ideas, but you still need more practice. Overall, I would rate this piece of music a 8.5 out of 10. Have a nice day! -TristanTheTristan -
Somehow still existing existentionally in this existence of existences as an existentially existential existence.
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Hello everyone! I composed a waltz for piano during the weekend. I wanted it to be "easy" to play so I composed it with an accompaniment that does not need jumps or the use of the pedal. It is still hard to play for me, so, while I practice, I leave it here with my initial live performance until I can play it better (it would sound awful with midi). My main concerns is always with the form, as I am not sure how do transition best between sections, when to repeat things or let them go, etc. So any feedback about that is more than welcome. The piece is in the form ABCBA. A is the main theme in A minor, which is repeated at the end. It is a frantic and agitated theme (and needs to be played rubato). B is a modulatory section and needs to be played without rubato and with the melody "singing". It is based on a long chromatic descending bass line so it is highly chromatic and there might be many compositional mistakes in this section. While it is the easiest section, I have troubles played it beautifully. You can listen to the only time I played it as well as I wanted in 2:01 from the audio. C is a simple lyrical theme in A major. The audio is really bad, it is based on different recordings so the quality of the sound changes a little. When I practice everything and have a finalized score and audio rendition I will update it! Hope you like it and any feedback is more than welcome! Thank you!
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Good guess Peter! It was inspired by Vivaldi's famous A minor violin concerto (RV356). I've even lifted a fragment of one phrase from it. In that work, he frequently reinforces the violin solo line with the entire violin section: so you have an alternation of texture. I haven't yet decided which phrases will be played solo: so I've left the whole part on the 1st violin section for now. (That was an additional clue this was based on Vivaldi!) The concerto RV356 crams three movements into c.6 minutes: so I'm hoping to do the same thing with my piece. The chord symbols can be used to create an arpeggiation in the low strings, along with all sorts of interesting preset textures using Sunuscore's Orchestral Elements. So that was my main reason for using them. (I've tested this out now, and it works quite well.) It also allows the harmonies to be quickly and easily changed. Theres a You Tube video all about it here, along with a score video of the Vivaldi:
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Hello @Loctobers! This is certainly quite interesting! After having listened to the original piece here I think I better understand how you made this orchestration and how the original piece was generated. It has a trance-like quality to it with the heavy delay effect. Your orchestration adds quite a lot of original content to the piece! Very well done! I wish you had provided a score for a more detailed review. Well done and thanks for sharing!
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Hey @Alex Weidmann! I think I personally wouldn't use the chord sequence function in Musescore (if I was composing on the computer) because it would prevent me from trying to imagine what kind of stuff I could use to fill the sonic spaces of the music. Also, later, when I would want to add more parts to the piece I would probably have become accustomed to the harmony and I'd become inflexible to use different harmonic/accompanimental ideas. In general though, the reason why I prefer nowadays to write my music on paper is because I found that being able to immediately hear what I'm composing was not conducive to composing. Like in creative writing - it's like the difference between the brainstorming or quick-writing mindset and the editing and proofreading mindset. In the brainstorming or quick-writing mindset you just throw out all ideas no matter how bizarre or impractical - the goal is to just keep writing and keep the pencil moving. In the editing and proofreading mindset you weed out all the little mistakes, grammar, punctuation, spelling etc. If I compose music on the computer the two mindsets interfere with each other too much. When I'm using Musescore I'm almost always already in the editing/proofreading mindset. It's because hearing my music immediately puts me in that editing/proofreading mindset before I even have a chance to complete my musical thoughts as they were meant to be conceived. It's distracting for me. But this has turned into a rant. I can't tell what piece this was inspired by - maybe something by Vivaldi or Bach? Some of the melodic ideas are interesting! The reason why I guessed Vivaldi or Bach is because of the Baroque-like sequences you employ in some parts. But where's the soloist? Thanks for sharing!
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Hello @Celloliver and welcome to the forum! This is a modest little piece! I do have to admit that often, with the double stops and two cellos playing together it can sometimes get a bit muddy. But you do often have the melody in the highest range of the cello which is a beautiful expressive tessitura for the cello. I like the main melody and I can definitely follow the melodic line throughout the duration of the piece so it seems to me like you're not a total beginner to writing music! Great job and thanks for sharing!
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Omaggio a Stravinsky- (solo Clarinet)
PeterthePapercomPoser replied to dhslamas's topic in Chamber Music
Hello @dhslamas! Glad to see that your really old pieces still make it to completion! I don't usually like pieces for a solo instrument because it's easy for them to degenerate into exercise-y shows of skill over actual musical content. But this is very interesting rhythmically, harmonically and melodically! The performance of course brings much to the table - did you play this yourself? Great job to whoever played it! It would be really interesting to try and orchestrate this little etude in a Stavinsky-style! What competition was this written for? Well done and thanks for sharing!