September 18, 200817 yr Mahler: Symphony No. 5, Mov. 4 (stupid Adagietto that isn't even good compared to other stuff he's written) Because it's not as...loud?
September 18, 200817 yr Because it's not as...loud? Pretty much. At least his other Adagio's have an arc of emotion. The adagietto is totally flat.
September 18, 200817 yr I actually hate most operas, specially scraggy like Rossini. Makes me want to punch babies if I have to listen to it, basically. But Wozzeck, Janacek's stuff, Britten's operas (SPECIALLY Peter Grimes), that's stuff I can listen to. Though, the deal with opera is I can't stand to just listen to it, I have to see it performed. It's like a play you can only hear the audio, half the thing is gone. :x
September 18, 200817 yr Though, the deal with opera is I can't stand to just listen to it, I have to see it performed. It's like a play you can only hear the audio, half the thing is gone. :xI'm the same way... I don't 'ardly hever 'listen' to opera... I 'ave to see it in the theAtre.
September 18, 200817 yr ...like Rossini. *Cue Barber of Seville Overture* Dum dum dum... dat dat dat DA-dat. (dum dum) dat dat DA-dat. (dum dum) dat dat dat DA-dat. dat DA-dat. dat DA-dat daaa. dat dat dat DA-dat. dat DA-dat. dat DA-dat daaaaa. dat dat dat DA-dat. DA-dat. DA-dat. DA-dat. Dat. Dooooo, be doo be doo. Dooooo, be doo be doo. be doo be doo, be doo be, doo-be doo-be doo-be doo-be doo. Dum dum dum... Like my version of solfege?
September 18, 200817 yr Pretty much. At least his other Adagio's have an arc of emotion. The adagietto is totally flat. I love the adagietto. It doesn't thrill me from beginning to end, but it holds my interest. I think it's wonderful. I actually hate most operas, specially scraggy like Rossini. Makes me want to punch babies if I have to listen to it, basically. Musically, you're the kind of person which no matter how much I try, I can't understand. I'm not a huge fan of Rossini, but other italian operas - above all Verdi's and Puccini's mature ones - are some of my favorite works of all time, and the most rewarding musical experiences I've ever had. And I have no problem listening to operas with simply the libretto in hand, at home. I like imagining the dramatic situation myself.
September 18, 200817 yr Don't get me wrong, I LOVE opera overtures, usually. It just when people start singing that I start looking for the nearest Exit. I'm playing the Barber of Seville Overture in a youth orchestra right now, and I really love it. I also played a fair share of Mozart overtures. Loved them. Some of my favourite Mozart music. It's Mozart when not in Lame-and-Cheesy mode.
September 18, 200817 yr Don't get me wrong, I LOVE opera overtures So? They mean little within the opera itself, and many operas don't even have them. Maybe you just haven't heard the right opera singers. Many of them *do* sound bad, even well known ones.
September 18, 200817 yr Opera is absolutely fantastic. Both my favorite musical and my favorite dramatic form.
September 18, 200817 yr Gesualdo and Zelenka. Man, their stuff is everywhere and it's driving me nuts. :)
September 18, 200817 yr I wasn't aware Zelenka that had much attention... He doesn't, unfortunately. Just trying to be funny. P.S. I agree with you about Vivaldi. The more I absorb his music (especially his vocal works), the more I stand amazed. The conciseness of his form, his marked homophonic textures, his melodically neutral themes, the minuet finale - and various mannersims once thought to have originated with the German composers of the Mannheim school - can all be found in his music.
September 18, 200817 yr Yeah, why can't everyone be as open as us? Because we're not Gay liberals from Florida. We like to keep our minds tightly closed off.
September 18, 200817 yr Because we're not Gay liberals from Florida. We like to keep our minds tightly closed off. Jesus Christ, neither am I.
September 18, 200817 yr Mozart: Any stupidly bland ballroom dance and any symphony before the 30ths (except 25). Vivaldi: Four Seasons. Beethoven: F
September 18, 200817 yr Fuer Elise has more than one movement? YOU MEAN I HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN PLAYING THE WHOLE THING? AHHHHHHHH! I agree with you about Mozart's 25th, I love that one. Played it in orchestra, too. :toothygrin: I also agree about Pomp and Circumstance. My thoughts? "GAHHHHHH." But... I love the Brandenburg Concerti and Pictures at an Exhibition. I'll never get tired of those. =]
September 19, 200817 yr Mozart: Any stupidly bland ballroom dance and any symphony before the 30ths (except 25).Vivaldi: Four Seasons. Beethoven: F
September 19, 200817 yr i agree with a lot of the things listed above. sometimes i get tired of people only knowing like 2 bars of one piece of music and keep singing it over and over again. (>.> beethoven's 5th) i am very very very tired of canon in D. and i am very very very tired of the 1st mvt of Spring from the four seasons.
September 19, 200817 yr Er, Bach and his very youthful *cough* keyboard pieces, tchaikovsky's piano concerto #1 mvt 1 Mozart is cheesy 98% of the time. And I am sick of "ouh so homophonic" choral stuff. like? uh just pick any hymn from the hymn book and viola! and actually I find Vivaldi quite palatable.
September 19, 200817 yr tchaikovsky's piano concerto #1 mvt 1 :horrified: NOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!! :angry:
September 19, 200817 yr Mozart is cheesy 98% of the time. Nope, he's just incompatible with your ears, apparently. I haven't heard a single Mozart piece which I thought was cheesy.
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