Creation

Hey there,I'm sorry I coulnd't post more music in the past weeks, I'm just so busy learning for school...Three days ago I just thought "I'm going to burst if I don't let this piece of music out", so I decided to invest a bit of my time in writing this piece.I choose the name "Creation" because I had something like a film scene in mind where someting is created or built up. Maybe a camp or something, and there's some feeling of exploring in that piece, too, I'd say.Well, now just enjoy listening!

Creation

Awesome opening, olibrehm! You instantly captured the mood you're going for. I think the ostinato is solid.

The strings are a welcome inclusion.

0:39-0:44 has an excellent rhythmic feel. This section would really benefit from some lusher orchestration. Imagine some french horns or violins playing those chords but playing them as whole notes that they crescendo through. For good inspiration, here's

I like the piccolo lines. They always sound really solid.

What programs/libraries did you use to create this?

1:42 had some weird doubling, like a harp doing octaves or something. The harp sounds a little thin when it plays those high octaves. Maybe play the octaves an octave down so that harp has a fuller sound. Alternatively, make the harp play just one note at a time with the glockenspiel instead of two.

The modulations are used well. They keep the momentum moving forward without sounding to contrived.

I was concerned you were gonna end this piece to abruptly but you didn't! You handled it perfectly. You took time to slow down the music and end in a very natural, organic way.

An excellent piece, olibrehm! Well done!

-John

Love the build up in volume around 2:12 and how it just swells and the ending and beginning are great, a natural piece that my first thoughts about where involving nature and gathering of food so really well done.

Good investment of your time, I'd say! It sounds more like exploration or wandering to my ear, but it definitely evokes a scene. I found the ending a little less satisfying than the balance of the piece--no abrupt ending, but rather a petering-out. But film music can be like that right? Really nice, wandering, piece with thoughtful orchestration throughout. Great work!

--Jim

Great piece Olib! It really evokes a scene of something happening, something good, not necessarily building or creating, but rather a feel-good tune in general. As John said, you could color it a bit more with some orchestration development, but I like minimalistic aproaches too and this is genuinely good as it is.

nice! it was indeed a sense of creation, i felt there was a certain development missing, i think a change of groove might do the trick.

very sweet and charming olib, i remember your pieces from cmc, always maintaining a high level of production, form and orchestration.

another good job done :)

0:39-0:44 has an excellent rhythmic feel. This section would really benefit from some lusher orchestration. Imagine some french horns or violins playing those chords but playing them as whole notes that they crescendo through. For good inspiration, here's

. Really full orchestration.

Wow that's thats an exellent piece really. I think I actually wanted to stay a bit "smaller" and more minimalistic, though it would certainly also sound great with some brass coming in there...

What programs/libraries did you use to create this?

This piece is purely EWQLSO Gold.

1:42 had some weird doubling, like a harp doing octaves or something. The harp sounds a little thin when it plays those high octaves. Maybe play the octaves an octave down so that harp has a fuller sound. Alternatively, make the harp play just one note at a time with the glockenspiel instead of two.

Yes it sounds a bit weird there... I wanted these arpeggiated harp octaves there, it would probably sound better without, though ;)

Thank you! Very constructive critics :)

Good investment of your time, I'd say! It sounds more like exploration or wandering to my ear, but it definitely evokes a scene. I found the ending a little less satisfying than the balance of the piece--no abrupt ending, but rather a petering-out. But film music can be like that right? Really nice, wandering, piece with thoughtful orchestration throughout. Great work!

Thanks! Yes, film music is often like that. But I think I could have done the ending a bit better, I'm kind of unexperienced with this fading out, especially the tempo track gave me a hard time :D

nice! it was indeed a sense of creation, i felt there was a certain development missing, i think a change of groove might do the trick.

very sweet and charming olib, i remember your pieces from cmc, always maintaining a high level of production, form and orchestration.

another good job done :)

Yeah, that was fun, too :) I was still using the Edirol Orchestral Library then^^ I must say EWQL really makes it a lot easier to produce tracks like that...

Thank you, too, Phanto and Madman, I'm glad you enjoyed!

I really liked this! Very peaceful and pretty. It lacked a certain level of intensity and dynamic grandeur that I associate with a concept like "creation" and creativity in general. So while the piece does develop, it remains very "small" and therefore doesn't make has large an impact as I might have preferred.

Otherwise the sequencing lets you down every now and again — synthy legato strings, etc. Thankfully the polished and well-orchestrated writing covers that up to a certain extent, so that's nice. Would work great in a video game as is and in a documentary film with some more serious tweaking.

Excellent work!

Hey Marius, I'm glad that you liked it!

The title is maybe really somewhat misleading... What I meant to express is rather something like a steady process of something being created. Or maybe someone working at a project, sometimes failing, sometimes succeeding. But in the whole I didn't want any big changes in tempo or the motives and to stay a bit minimalistic.

So it's actually supposed to be a "small", steady creation ;)

About the sequencing, I'd be very grateful if you'd tell me where exactly you found the strings "synthy" for example, so maybe I'll be able to improve it.

Thanks again :)

My God, I did two more hours of mixing just now after realising that I had completely forgotten about reverb... shame on me :o

Well, I think the sound's better now. Maybe someone could confirm that (or disagree ;))

Her's the new file for comparison:

Creation-new

I can't tell if you made any major tweaks. It's a little louder overall which is nice. I think you added some panning effects to those 8ve harp notes. They don't bother me anymore. They sound very pretty now, actually.

There was a nice transition that you might have smoothed out at 1:52. I like the swell from the winds in the right to the strings in the left. I'm not sure how much of that was the in the original track, but I can hear it a lot clearly now.

I'll listen once more for the fun of it.

2:14-2:17 sorta seems cloudy because the flute is getting drowned out by the lower instruments. Alternatively, just turn down the reverb a tad.

It's still a solid piece and very enjoyable to listen to.

Peace on Earth,

-John

You were inspired by the Avatar OST for this maybe?

It sounds a lot like it.

I think it's got great instrumental dynamics, the writing and orchestration is great.

Although I feel like one thing is missing, namely a main theme. Something memorable that sort of identifies the movie or piece itself as that unique piece.

In Avatar Horner had a good main theme that he used all over the place, making the different moods and scenes instantly recognizable.

Right now it feels like you have a solid foundation with great orchestration, but I think it would be elevated even more with a more "in your face" theme.

Otherwise, it works fine on its own and could be used for such a scene that you describe, but I agree with Marius that it's not 100% realistic, but then what is?

I don't think I've ever even heard anything that is. But even so, maybe work on the volume, it's a tad low in my opinion.

I really think it was enjoyable though.. These are just my 2 cents.

I think you added some panning effects to those 8ve harp notes. They don't bother me anymore. They sound very pretty now, actually.

They're just an octave lower now, as you suggested ;)

2:14-2:17 sorta seems cloudy because the flute is getting drowned out by the lower instruments. Alternatively, just turn down the reverb a tad.

Ahhh yes you're right of course... Actually the violin is playing the same melody line there, so I lowered the flute's volume a bit. But to make its sound smoother in other parts, I've used different samples for the violin sounds and so the melody is a bit blurred there...

Thanks for listening again :)

@coax

I wondered when someone would mention that ;)

It's true, I've listened to "Avatar" a lot lately, so it's certainly somehow a source of inspiration. Though I didn't intend to have a sound like that at first... I think the parallels are mainly the picollo's fault, though in Avatar it's rather some ethnic flute, I think.

And yes, there's not really a theme in my piece, it's rather the ongoing ostinato and the motive (beginning at 0:16, for example) that define it.

If it was a part of a whole film score, there would certainly appear a main theme somehow, but I think like this, the piece is just too short. It would have to be much longer to be able to "host" a big main theme at all...

Thanks for the comment!