Romanticist Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 I personally think Mahler 3 is a rather cohesive and enjoyable work. Don't forget his 6th, 2nd and his 8th! I enjoyed the 3rd as well but my fav. symphonies are his Enormous 8th, his 2nd, and my favorite violin concerto would probably be Mendelssohn's E minor Concerto and ofcourse the bruch:thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Gorrick Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Don't forget his 6th, 2nd and his 8th! I enjoyed the 3rd as well but my fav. symphonies are his Enormous 8th, his 2nd, and my favorite violin concerto would probably be Mendelssohn's E minor Concerto and ofcourse the bruch:thumbsup: No love for Mahler 4 and 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenor10 Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 How about all of Mahler, because they are all pretty amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romanticist Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 No love for Mahler 4 and 5? Ahh from what I have listened to..since the orchestral force for the 4th is "small" for Mahler and since I like big bold loud orchestral finales and the like ,the 4th is not my favorite and doesn't appeal to me as much...even though the finale has a soprano and I like the human voice..:). The fifth...I love the adagio..absolutely lovely, the finale is odd in a way that the actual emotion for it I find to be not so common among Mahlerian works.. it's happy...fully blown out happy, while many other of his works just end either sad...or simply (like his 8th) unexplainable...Mahler's music brings out different emotions in everyone so yeah..I kinda like his 4th, his 5th was very enjoyable as well:thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Gorrick Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Ahh from what I have listened to..since the orchestral force for the 4th is "small" for Mahler and since I like big bold loud orchestral finales and the like ,the 4th is not my favorite and doesn't appeal to me as much...even though the finale has a soprano and I like the human voice..:). The fifth...I love the adagio..absolutely lovely, the finale is odd in a way that the actual emotion for it I find to be not so common among Mahlerian works.. it's happy...fully blown out happy, while many other of his works just end either sad...or simply (like his 8th) unexplainable...Mahler's music brings out different emotions in everyone so yeah..I kinda like his 4th, his 5th was very enjoyable as well:thumbsup: So you don't like Mahler 4 because it isn't loud and bombastic. Alright then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest QcCowboy Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 among my favourites: symphony: Copland no.3 violin concerto: Berg Concerto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romanticist Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 So you don't like Mahler 4 because it isn't loud and bombastic. Alright then... Well that and it just doesn't appeal to me as much..hard to explain but yes the absence of loud bombastic parts has something to do with it as well :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevemc90 Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 concerto: Szymanowski either 1 or 2 i'm impressed, very few know szymanowski, let alone violinists and his concertos! i played his first Mythe last year for a recital... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest QcCowboy Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 i'm impressed, very few know szymanowski, let alone violinists and his concertos! i played his first Mythe last year for a recital... I'm particularly fond of his Stabat Mater. It's one of my favourite works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Composer Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 So you don't like Mahler 4 because it isn't loud and bombastic. Alright then... Personal taste does not always correlate with a personal opinions on quality of work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Lex. Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Symphony: Either of Beethoven's 5th or 9th (not sure) Violin Concerto: Paganini's concerto No. 2 in B minor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydman Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 For me its Sibelius all the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violist Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 I prefer Mahler's second symphony and Sibelius' violin concerto far above anything Tchaikovsky has written (though I must admit the sixth symphony really is amazing). This subject is just too subjective... not everyone thinks the same way as do you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High markander Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Indeed, it is very subjective. But from a clinical standpoint, I think we can discern the a few qualities a violin concerti by their specific qualities. I'm not even gonna touch symphonies - it's a whole other ballpark. For example, In terms of difficulty: Bartok's VC No. 2 could lie in here. Maybe Schoenberg. Yes, Sib's is tough, but between Bartok's arpeggio crawling and Schoenberg's awkward fingering, I don't think it deserves a place. Really though, difficulty is a personal issue and some violinists are better at some areas than others. Both concerti, though, require very diverse colors of sound, and draw upon a dazzling variety of techniques. In terms of skillful orchestration: Mendelsohn is really the benchmark here as the violin is never overpowered, always working with the orchestra. And he doesn't shy away from violin and orchestra playing together, unlike what he does in his piano concerti. It's hard however to resist mentioning Syzamanowski VC No. 2, as he was so freakin' creative. Bartok pulls hat tricks in his VC No. 2 with a huge, huge orchestra, and no overpowering of the soloist. He, however gets no points for being conservative. Yay for triple winds, humongous brass. This is a complex topic. Brahms is difficult, requires incredible precision. Mendelsohn isn't that hard technically, but requires so much emotion (not to say other pieces don't). Tchaik is a playful piece, has virtuosity, and Tchiak's very Russian colors. Mozart VC6 is poignant. I'm also very surprised nobody's mentioned Lalo's Symph Espangole. But yeah, have fun agreeing on something. I don't think it'll happen. My personal fav is Bartok's Violin Concerto No. 1. Rarely heard, never played anymore. It's a shame. Bartok never even completed it. And you'll get a different answer from me every day of the week if you ask what my favourite symphony is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjoory Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 are you dunn-rankin these symphonies?? Stop it. there is no objective "greatest". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_is_D Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 Symphony: Either of Beethoven's 5th or 9th (not sure)Violin Concerto: Paganini's concerto No. 2 in B minor I find No. 2 to be dreadful, except for the last movement. I am, however, quite fond of Paganini's 1st, 4th and 5th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunarDudar Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I find No. 2 to be dreadful, except for the last movement. I am, however, quite fond of Paganini's 1st, 4th and 5th. I don't like paganini. I saw a documentary on him. it said he made a pact with the devil! My parents won't let me listen to him now :sadtears: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spherenine Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I don't like paganini.I saw a documentary on him. it said he made a pact with the devil! My parents won't let me listen to him now :sadtears: They were kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Lex. Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I find No. 2 to be dreadful, except for the last movement. I am, however, quite fond of Paganini's 1st, 4th and 5th. Yea fair enough, I mainly enjoy the 2nd for the last movement anyways :P. I also like the others but no. 2 is my favorite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablyth Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 This is stupid. 130 years after it was written someone says, " Hey I've discovered the world's most over-recorded Violin Concerto, yippee." Please get a life. And anyone who likes Mahler, ditto. I mean is this a serious discussion point or are you just seeking attention? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tariq Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I think this is pointless. We need to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablyth Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Wow. i've just discovered Beethoven's fifth. I mean, is that a symphony or what? And not just one movement but three. And he wrote it so long ago. Like he probably had to use an Atari or something back then. It's a bit repetitive at the start, admittedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rautavaara Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 The title of this thread should be your favourite rather than the 'best'. For me, Violin Concerto - Thomas Ad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voce Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Bartok's 2nd violin concerto and Shostakovich's 10th symphony are my favorites. Even so, I'd say Tchaikovsky's violin concerto and Beethoven's 9th symphony are the best of the genres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jujimufu Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 I always wonder why such threads exist... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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