For EWQL users: How much RAM do you have?

I have EWQL Gold. I think everyone who use a sample library knows the problem. Samples use a lot of ram, but the standard Winxp 32-bit can handle only 2 gigs. I cant load a full orchestra cause when I try it, it causes drop-outs, crackles, in playback. Winxp 64-bit can handle a lot of rams but everyone say to me it's a scraggy and I'm not sure that EWQL would work on it properly. So how to solve the problem? I'm curious that what operation system, and how many rams do you have.

I have EWQL Gold. I think everyone who use a sample library knows the problem. Samples use a lot of ram, but the standard Winxp 32-bit can handle only 2 gigs. I cant load a full orchestra cause when I try it, it causes drop-outs, crackles, in playback. Winxp 64-bit can handle a lot of rams but everyone say to me it's a scraggy and I'm not sure that EWQL would work on it properly. So how to solve the problem? I'm curious that what operation system, and how many rams do you have.

It does. I use Vista 64-bit with an AMD Athlon X2 3000+ Dual-Core CPU and 8Gb RAM.

You are right about 32-bit in terms of RAM access, but RAM isn't the only problem. You have to have fast hard drives, fast CPU (or CPUs such as dual or quad). A lot of RAM is required to load the samples.

My set up is composing in Sibelius 6 (32-bit), then saving to MIDI using Jonathan Loving's soundsets. I then load the MIDI inside a DAW (64-bit, such as Reaper or Sonar), then load my instances of EWQLSO and EWQLSC as plugins (64-bit) and play with the volume etc... I have to admit that I do get drop-outs and freezing, but I am convinced it's due to my CPU (dual-core) not being able to cope with all this. Quad would be better methinks.

Are you a member of the Eastwest Forums (do a search on Google for Soundsonline) and then read through the various posts. A LOT of people are using Vista (you can see this from their signature) and have around 8Gb or ram, so I assuming that all is well. Of course, a few use Macs...

Oh thank you very much. Maybe I'll try Vista :D

In fact I've got a fast CPU (Dual-core too and 2x2.3Ghz). You know nowdays I not play games. I'm get bored of them. But I curious that is it possible that on my 1st winchester to set up Winxp 32 bit and an another winchester Wista 64-bit. Is it posssible?

In fact I read it right now that if you write "\PAE" in boot.ini Winxp -32 bit can handle 16 gigs of ram :D

Caouse its a command to enable "Physycal Adress Extension". Maybe my problem is getting solved yeah

Oh thank you very much. Maybe I'll try Vista :D

In fact I've got a fast CPU (Dual-core too and 2x2.3Ghz). You know nowdays I not play games. I'm get bored of them. But I curious that is it possible that on my 1st winchester to set up Winxp 32 bit and an another winchester Wista 64-bit. Is it posssible?

In fact I read it right now that if you write "\PAE" in boot.ini Winxp -32 bit can handle 16 gigs of ram :D

Caouse its a command to enable "Physycal Adress Extension". Maybe my problem is getting solved yeah

Try it and good luck. I have always had 4Gb or RAM but XP couldn't recognise more than 3.25Gb and more to the point, there is a limitation with 32-bit as to how much memory it can dedicate for system resources etc... You will never be able to use the full amount of memory, whatever memory you have, even with the switch. XP wasn't really designed to see/use that amount of RAM, unlike Vista or Windows 7, as the norm these days is speed and power, memory as well as internet speed.

I have 2 hard drives. One has XP 32-bit for my usual stuff (day to day computing), and my other hard drive has Vista 64-bit. Been trialling Windows 7 RC 64-bit - not good to be honest. Crashes, sound problems etc...

In fact I read it right now that if you write "\PAE" in boot.ini Winxp -32 bit can handle 16 gigs of ram

Even with physical address extension, Windows XP 32 can only handle a maximum of 4 GB RAM: Physical Address Extension - PAE Memory and Windows

The limitations of 32-bit mean a single process may only address 4 GB at once anyway (unless it was designed with PAE in mind), so this 4 GB ceiling is almost immaterial.

You'd probably be best off switching to Vista or Windows 7.

I bought a rebuilt machine from Dell, that has the i7 chips in it. So I have 8 cores at 2.66 ghz each and am using Vista 64 so I have 12 gbs Ram. When I bought it I asked if I could increase the RAM and they said yes, up to 24 gbs. They lied. I am forever stuck at 12 gbs with this machine.

I load 4 instances of Kompakt (for EWQL Gold), with numerous keyswitch instruments, 32 tracks of instruments in Sonar 8 PE and the computer barely breaks a sweat. That's with many effects going on as well (like convolution Reverbs which love using the cpu).

I got fed up wth dropouts which is why I went into further debt to buy the machine, but it works great.

Ron

Ok dudes. Can you tell me what's the advantages and disadvantages of Win Vista 64-bit?? What program works, what not. Tell me your experienes please.

I second that inquiry ^^

Ok dudes. Can you tell me what's the advantages and disadvantages of Win Vista 64-bit?? What program works, what not. Tell me your experienes please.

Advantages:

Faster processing as you would need a 64-bit CPU.

Greater memory usage (can utilise far more than 32-bit).

Running 64-bit programs therefore utilising the OS, the CPU, and memory (you can run 32-bit programs in 64-bit OS but limited to 32-bit technology even in 64-bit mode), in fact your machine's full potential.

DAWs and VSTs (plugins or standalone) in 64-bit versions give you better performance as they were designed to use the 64-bit environment and 64-bit CPU.

Faster overall experience.

Exactly the same as 32-bit OS. No extra menus, no hidden extras. Looks the same as Vista 32-bit or its equivalent 32-bit OS (XP ir Windows 7).

Disadvantages:

Sibelius, for example, is only 32-bit so will behave like 32-bit thus not utilising your system's resources, CPU processing power and full memory.

Cost of equipment and OS.

You need 64-bit CPU and the equipment to go with it.

Not everything has a 64-bit driver or 64-bit support.

Might need a second machine to run your music stuff on it on 64-bit, as you might not be able to use it as your day to day machine (drivers, hardware support, etc...).

I think I got everything down, but I am sure someone will add more.

I suppose your question is the same for which is better for music? PCs or Macs. We all know what the answer to that is, but the main reason people don't go for Macs is cost, I believe.

EWQL Plat, 4GB RAM, Vista 64-bit.

Thank you very much guys. I think I'll try Win Vista 64-bit. :)

Not everything has a 64-bit driver or 64-bit support.

Might need a second machine to run your music stuff on it on 64-bit, as you might not be able to use it as your day to day machine (drivers, hardware support, etc...).

Nah, most things have 64-bit support and I use my 64-bit machine for day to day use, it's perfect.

I don't have any rams.

But I do run a 2.8 ghz, 8-core Mac with 8GB of RAM as my main DAW system. Networked to that I also have a slightly disadvantaged desktop PC as a farm out machine with a couple sample libraries installed on it.

At home: 3 gigs of DDR2 Ram on Win XP 32-bit. Does fairly well if I'm not streaming video or using anything from the PLAY sampler which is much heavier.

At work: 5 gigs of DDR2 Ram on Tiger OS. Does much better. To be honest I've yet to run out of ram with this computer and have cranked it up to about 25 active VST at once while streaming video.

Nah, most things have 64-bit support and I use my 64-bit machine for day to day use, it's perfect.

Most things = not everything! ;)

Reiterating/expanding on anthonyzerillocomposer's psot:

The major advantage of Windows 64-bit is that it can address WAY more memory. From a practical standpoint, there isn't actually much else to it.

So:

Simple answer: You can use way more total physical memory, and each process can use much more as well. Note that 32-bit programs can (usually!) run on 64-bit operating systems. (There are exceptions.) However, only 64-bit programs can take advantage of higher maximum per-process memory; on 32-bit Windows, 32-bit programs can use up to 2 GB (3 GB if it's Large-Address Aware*); on 64-bit, it's 2 GB or 4 GB for large-address aware.

Technical answer: A computer system has to give addresses to each byte to be able to point to it; this is done with a single integer. On 32-bit systems, a 32-bit integer is used; such a binary number can contain 2^12 unique values (which is exactly 4 GiB). Hence why you're limited to less than 4 GB of physical memory - stuff like video memory is also addressed in this space. On 64-bit systems, you're limited to ... something insanely big. Binary 0... to 1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 1111.

Sibelius, for example, is only 32-bit so will behave like 32-bit thus not utilising your system's resources, CPU processing power and full memory.

See footnote.

Cost of equipment and OS.

You need 64-bit CPU and the equipment to go with it.

Not everything has a 64-bit driver or 64-bit support.

However, this is a point I really must impress: You absolutely must have 64-bit drivers for all your hardware. 32-bit drivers cannot run on 64-bit Windows. Furthermore, for 32-bit applications to use devices, those devices' drivers must be able to run in 32-bit mode.

For this reason, 32-bit software that install drivers or virtual drivers (e.g. virtual CD drives for mounting ISO images, or virtual printers that make PDF files) can't install. This is the major exception to 32-bit software working.

Also, in 64-bit Vista and later only, drivers also need to be digitally signed. That means that not anybody can write a 64-bit driver and have people install it - non-commercial free software might find difficulty there. (I'm not sure what steps are needed to digitally sign a driver, though...)

* You can "turn on" LAA with this utility. However, since the program wasn't necessarily written with LAA in mind in that case, it CAN cause problems. With Sibelius, at least, I've been running it like that for a few weeks without problems.

512 MB-RAM (my laptop). Because I use my sequencer (16GB-RAM) via LAN-MIDI

i have two operating systems installed xp32 and vista64, that was before i had a sequencer that can run on 64bit with all the plugins.

but now i'm out of disk space, since 64bit takes much more space.

i have 4gig ram with EWQL-and its not enough if you want to run choir's especially.

if you're having spikes problems with EWQL, i've solved this by matching the buffer size on EWQL to the one on my card! and also check your drive for errors, EWQL is VERY touchy about this , making loading time really crappy-50mega took about 2 minutes, until i fixed the errors.

check these up and see if it fixes some of your issues, I'm guessing that's why you brought this question?

I have 3gb, 64bit, XP! Silver/Pro. Im planning on upgrading to 16gb in due time!

i have two operating systems installed xp32 and vista64, that was before i had a sequencer that can run on 64bit with all the plugins.

but now i'm out of disk space, since 64bit takes much more space.

i have 4gig ram with EWQL-and its not enough if you want to run choir's especially.

if you're having spikes problems with EWQL, i've solved this by matching the buffer size on EWQL to the one on my card! and also check your drive for errors, EWQL is VERY touchy about this , making loading time really crappy-50mega took about 2 minutes, until i fixed the errors.

check these up and see if it fixes some of your issues, I'm guessing that's why you brought this question?

What speed processor do you have? I'm looking into getting EWQLSO and have:

Intel Core Duo 2.13Ghz, 4g RAM, 320g Hard drive, Windows 7 64-bit.

I'd like to know if EWQLSO will be able to run (even if it stumbles up) with those specs before I buy it...

Also, does anyone know if EWQLSO can run without an ASIO driver/how to get an ASIO driver on a laptop? I found a program called ASIO4ALL but I don't quite understand how it works,and what the need is for it.

I have 4gb of RAM, and EWQL works just fine on my system! I have 2 dual-core processors, 2.0 Ghz per core. The only problems I've had with EWQL have been due to my DAW.

Hey,

I have a quad core processor, windows 7, 64 bit and 6 GB of RAM, and everything works just fine. When using sibelius I just use a second program called Jbridge that makes the plugins in sibelius 64 bit, this way I can load anything that I want and it works just fine.

This might help some others out here too I guess ;)

I have 4gb of RAM, and EWQL works just fine on my system! I have 2 dual-core processors, 2.0 Ghz per core. The only problems I've had with EWQL have been due to my DAW.

Okay, good.

I'm planning on buying the silver orchestra today due to 50% off on soundsonline.com. Do you know if it will work with Finale Printmusic, or will I be forced to purchase Finale 2011? (which I plan to do soon when I have enough money.)

In addition, does ASIO4ALL work/do you really need an ASIO soundcard?

Yes, you really need an ASIO driver. I don't know about ASIO4ALL, though. Silver is decent at alot of things, but absolutely awful at others. I would plan on buying GPO as a compliment to it later on. That's what I'm going to do.

Yes, you really need an ASIO driver. I don't know about ASIO4ALL, though. Silver is decent at alot of things, but absolutely awful at others. I would plan on buying GPO as a compliment to it later on. That's what I'm going to do.

Does gold do better with the things Silver is awful at? Also, do you have a laptop? If so, how did you get an ASIO driver?