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Hi again! I'll try. Here you go: • I don't know if it's just me, but I do listen to some gray noise when there's more instrument density, for example. • The voices that Suno and similar stuff produce, at least from my experience, sound all generic and have little to no personality. It's already a miracle that the timbre more or less is kept constant. Soon, it will be impossible to distinguish between these pieces and usual mainstream productions, specially when a guy who knows its craft takes it and modifies it accordingly. • Structurally is usually a "mess", AI is still learning that and it keeps improving. Harmonic simplicity of most songs it produces helps obscuring the fact that it's kinda bad organising material at the middle of them. They work superficially, anyway, and would work for the masses IMO. In the last example you uploaded, there was a great opportunity to repeat the chorus at the end one more time than what it does. • In some songs, instruments, voices, and stuff, appear and disappear at places strangely. Where's the flute and violin at the beginning of the piece? Later on 1:45~ I do listen to some string synths, but that's another unexpected appearance. Thing is that AI doesn't care about the internal coherence but about the output and if it works similarly to LLMs (which I don't know, because I have not delved deep into music AI bots behind the scenes) it's just making the "best guess possible" but it's not building music the way I and others would. Despite it being a way different technology, this feels to me like when Stockfish (chess bot) gets "inhuman" moves in chess, but instead of on par or better than the human alternative, music AI goes to a less convincing path. However, the way either I or others make music is not the only way, obviously. I do make scores, and then record them or tell the computer to play them for me. Some others don't make scores, they use a DAW and make the score afterwards (or not). Some others prefer recording directly and adding stuff in production. Some others use presets. And there are nuances on each way of doing this craft so, in summary, I would dare to state something like "the further away you get from the details you can tweak in each phase of music composition & production, the closer AI gets to your imitate your work". At least in my experience. And just as a personal note, I would insist in the fact that AI may only reach the complexity it needs to satisfy the masses. Here I attach some AI examples that I found on a telegram group. These ain't mine, but from people that prompted it with lyrics that AI generated as well. They're done by 3 different people but to me their differences lie in the surface. The tool is still not subtle enough, but I am afraid that I myself will not be able to tell AI songs and mainstream media songs apart. Finally, in regards of AI song checkers, they may fail in my experience. That's a game I don't play but they must be playing an interesting cat-and-mouse game. Perhaps not my call, but this is a good question. For me, a composer, or a good one, is a prestidigitator of music. Someone able to create their own music from its very conception to the smallest of details. An architect of the score. A composer can make what Suno made for you, but he chooses if he wants the guitar at ~5:20 is doing that Fsus4/Bbsus2 arpeggio, for how long, and if it should be Bb F Bb F C F Bb all 8ths or another line, etc, based on things that he put (or did not put yet) in the score. You, as the composer, decide everything. You even decide what you don't want to decide. You yourself set the variables, each and every one of them. You decide if fixing them or not and how. And you keep doing so, and get better and better at it. The key, the structure, the meter, the instruments, how and when they interact with each other... And a large etcetera. And you do not delegate: in order to make a good melody, you must study and practice how to make them. In order to make a good and convincing harmony or a good counterpoint (vertical and horizontal POVs), you do the same. Texture, color, etc. You keep learning and incorporating things you like into what eventually becomes your own set of tools that define your particular voice. Perhaps this is a radical way of describing a composer and what he does but welp, this is more or less my view on it. TAB is also music notation. Pretty useful at times. Just like with music notation overall, some despise it, some praise it. Sheet music can have TABS, staves (Here's an example of an arrangement I made the other dayThird Eye (Arr.).pdf, these are regular staves), or other kinds of music notation. It can be just chords, or indications, or entire different systems. And yeah I get learning it can be seen as a tedious task, it is what it is. Personally I love it and the main reason I got into music when I was like 4 was because I wanted to understand the symbols of a book called "the day the songs fell silent". Think that spotify may close someday, but if you have your scores secured in many formats, not only people will be able to listen to your works 100 years after, they will be able to understand them, study them, cover them, etc. Results won't be as bombastic as AI-prompting because there's a full layer of music production that I have not mentioned much that AI integrates good enough. You may have much less control over the result, but results are already eye-candy for many. My two cents. Kind regards!

Hello Peter thank you truly again for your comment, and helping me post this. I definitely gave the christmas medley idea a thought, but there wasn't enough time to make an orchestral draft based on those tunes. Otherwise, I think I would've missed the event completely. I decided to enter with this instead, since it is a small dedication I've been writing. Once I have the time, I may continue the draft I've been working on, which will include more complicated reharmonizations, perhaps in the style of ravel boi.

It is now 2026 and the Christmas Music Event is closed to further submissions! But stay tuned for the Conclusion thread to be released!

Hi @Luis Hernández! I think I remember hearing this piece from you in some Christmas Event from year's past. I love the simplicity of this piece - it shows that you don't need to write overly complex music to write something that is quite sophisticated and brings up some quite somber and serious emotions. It also brings a sense of timelessness and constant surprise. Like @Thatguy v2.0 mentioned, I think it is better to listen to it without the score. I think in my case it also induces a kind of trance or altered state of consciousness. Thanks for sharing and Happy New Year!

Hey @Aiwendil! Very cool brass quintet! It's definitely very Christmassy and in an original way is difficult to achieve! I have also used a brass ensemble (a brass octet) in my 3rd Christmas Mash-up this year. You can judge for yourself whether it's any good LoL. I think your rendition is much better than mine as I just used Musesounds. I do wonder why you chose the specific instruments that you did. Why you chose the D Trumpet is obvious since the piece is in D. But why the Bb trumpet instead of another D trumpet or a C trumpet? Thanks for sharing and Happy New Year!

Now I'm not normally in the business of mashups, but it always bothered me that Selena Gomez's "Rock God" didn't have any rock in it. When I set out to rectify this problem, it occurred to me that the "Burn It To The Ground" riff was perfect for it already, and so...

Hey @chopin I feel like this fragment is so short that you should have included at least one more repeat of the material perhaps with some kind of variation or switching up of the voices? Also, I'm sure you know that "Jingle Bells" and "Dashing through the snow" are lyrics from the same Christmas Carol "Jingle Bells" just in different sections. For that reason, I think it would be difficult to make a full fledged piece out of it, since you have already spent all your melodic material in the first 8 seconds. Although it is good to note that the melodies can be combined contrapuntally this way in case someone were to ever want to make use of this mash-up in some longer work (that's partially why I am doing my own Christmas Mash-ups too - in case I ever want to steal those ideas in some other more substantial Christmas piece). Thanks for sharing and Happy New Year!

Hey again @Wieland Handke I do feel like this one is more outdoorsy and pastorale. I do hear the Bach quote clearer in this one too. The Empty Church is much more somber and quiet. This one, with is full fledged instrumentation is much more joyful and celebratory. Perhaps this one is meant for the joy of the arrival of Christmas Day, while the Empty Church is meant for the yearning of Christmas Eve? Thanks for sharing and Happy New Year!

Hey @Wieland Handke! I love the quiet atmosphere! Might this be a piece of music intended to be played during the Church's vespers or evening prayers? Very interesting instrumental combination. I do interpret it as music intended to set the mood for the occasion or be background for a vesper service. Because of your quote of Bach's "Where Sheep May Safely Graze" (or was it "Sleeper's Wake!"? I always get those two mixed up...) I was almost led to include my own Bach quote in my Christmas Scherzo in the Trio section of the Scherzo, but I am happy that I decided against it, as the Trio I came up with is better suited to the piece imo. Thanks for sharing and Happy New Year!

Hi again @HoYin Cheung I find reviewing pieces like this very strange because I can hear some themes in this that sound familiar and I can't be sure if it's because your using pre-existing Christmas Carol themes or if you're varying something/mashing it up or if it's just a slight allusion to other themes. So I don't know which aspects of the composition are your own original work and how much is taken from other pieces. I have done 3 Christmas Mash-up's this year myself and I try to give the listener clues letting them know what to listen for and which Christmas Carols I'm using in my renditions. Thanks for sharing and Happy New Year!

Hey @Vavrinec! Wonderful wintry atmosphere! I love how you change up the tempo and meter in the middle of the piece to give it an infusion of fresh excitement before returning to the scherzo, or perhaps minuet-like 6/8 section. You also cleverly leave out the string in the 2/4 part which also brings its own contrast. Great job and thanks for sharing! Happy New Year!

Hello @J. Lee Graham! Very nice fugue! This fugue made me realize that I could do yet another Christmas Mash-up between "O, Christmas Tree", "Hark! The Herald Angel's Sing!" and "We wish you a Merry Christmas"! They all start with either an ascending 4th anacrusis or in the case of "Hark!" an ascending 4th on the strong beat. I also love the Harpsichord here. I used to hate the sound of Harpsichords, but somehow I have learned to love them. I think the fugue is perfect for how long it is - I think if would be difficult to write a full-blown longer fugue-fantasia with this subject. Already I have to complain about your repetition of a sequence 5 times in a row between measures 28 - 37. Usually Bach would try to limit such repetitions to 3 or maybe 4 times in a row before varying them. But other than that nitpick I really enjoyed this fugue! Thanks for sharing and Happy New Year!

Hey @TristanTheTristan! This definitely feels like has the spirit of Christmas. Sometimes it manages this by somehow indirectly mimicking some Christmas Carols without any direct quotes. Other times it seems like it's inspired by the Nutcracker. The only thing that bothers me is the mechanicality of your rendition. People have already mentioned the mechanical nature of your tremolos and trills and stuff like that. I think all that can be fixed by writing out your trills through tuplets, making them sound exactly as fast or as slow as you want (and also having control of their velocity values). Same thing with the tremolos - you could bring down their volume with velocity values - relegating them to the intended background of the music rather than an annoying thing that jumps out at the listener. The final thing that would really make it sound so much better is the occasional use of the damper pedal. Just those things would help my impression of the piece 10-fold. Thanks for sharing and Happy New Year!

Hi @Tunndy! I think there's a lot of warmth to your orchestration! I love those shimmering glockenspiel and triangle ostinati. Some of the things that wouldn't sound idiomatic are the sextuplets in meas. 35. It's unrealistic for the Harp, 2nd Violins and Violas to enter on a sextuplet off-beat like that. It would be better for them to play a note on the downbeat as well if you want that to be performed together. Thanks for sharing and Happy New Year!

Hello @raymond doerr and welcome to the forum! I'm glad we met! I love the warmth and high quality production value of this rendition! I can easily imagine this playing during a sweet wintry moment in a sappy Christmas movie LoL! Great job and thanks for joining and sharing this with us!

Hello again @HoYin Cheung! I think this is far from a pop song! And I think that's a good thing. Maybe the modulations are quite direct, but the style of it is still very classical to my ears. Does your new vocal DAW software that you used to create this support different languages or just English? Cuz I wrote three Christmas Mash-ups this Christmas and I can't help but wonder if it could be used to realize some of them. One of my Mash-ups (No.3) is all in English, but the other two mix Polish, Latin and English. Thanks for sharing this warm choral song!

Hi @mercurypickles! I like the nearly polytonal feeling that the soprano introduces when it comes in. Reminds me a bit of some of my polytonal settings of various Christmas Carols that I've made mash-ups of. I read up a little bit about what the Coventry Carol is about. It is quite sad that a whole generation of children would be wiped out. The dissonance in polytonal soprano melody seems appropriate in hindsight because of this subject matter. I wonder if it is just a Biblical story or if it's meant to portray an actual historical event. Thanks for sharing this haunting lullaby.

Hi again @Musicman_3254 and welcome to the forum! I don't know how nobody hasn't mentioned this yet but you prominently use the themes from apparently all three of the movements of Gustav Holst's 1st Suite in Eb. I was sure that you were using some kind of English Folk song but apparently these are Holst's original themes that he wrote during an English folk song revivalist era. I wonder, what is your goal for using all these themes? Were you hoping to improve upon Holst's piece? I think not only would better sounds give your piece more life but also a better understanding of the instruments and how to put them together to sound idiomatic and realistic (and well balanced with each other dynamically). But I find it a bit strange that you didn't let any of us fellow composers/reviewers know that you were using another composer's themes in your work. Thanks for sharing though and Happy New Year!

Hi @therealAJGS! It sounds like, because this is just an event and there are no duration requirements, you kinda just threw something together and didn't care to continue it and just abandoned it in the middle of writing it. If there was a 3 minute duration requirement, I imagine that you would have at least repeated your ideas with different instruments and different kinds of layering on top of each other to extend the piece in your usual fashion - which I honestly would have liked and expected of you. But it sounds like you just quit out of a lack of motivation or boredom with your own creation. But creation is its own reward! I'm sure you would have been proud of yourself if you had submitted something more substantial! Oh well - I'll hope for next time. Thanks for sharing!

Interesting, I'm glad i'm not the only one using technology lol. Don't get mad ok lol I'm not saying you are doing the same thing I'm doing cuz your way you still pick the notes unlike mine which depends on the lyrics is what suno spits out.

Hey @Mooravioli! It sounds like you took a really nice and simple melody and did a little jazz re-harmonization. I'm assuming that the melody is your own original one - but have you ever thought of re-harmonizing other well known Christmas Carols or even other well known melodies not associated with Christmas? There's a whole world of potential there! I just recently discovered the potential of combining different Christmas Carols together at once into Mash-up's. Thanks for sharing - I enjoyed the warmth of the piano tone and your performance gave it a real sincerity. Happy New Year!

Hello Mike, thank you so much, and happy new year to you! I know the audio quality isn't the best, but I am elated you enjoyed the work, especially for the 7ths and 9ths that were added.

Thanks! There is no piano in this - only a brass octet and an 8-part choir. Do you mean did I make it by playing the notes with a keyboard? No, I input the notes directly into Musescore using a mouse.

Sounded pretty cool to me, are you playing a piano or something? idk if you will take my observation but you asked, but uh around 1:06 sounded odd to me. Anyways yea sounds great overall

I wrote this piece over the past two months as a sort of challenge to myself and as a demonstration for a few other people on writing pieces out of short themes. I think it's structurally a lot more complicated than typical sonata allegros, but I kind of got carried away (especially in the recapitulation). Honestly, it sounds to me more like the scherzo (third movement) of a four movement sonata rather than the first movement, and I kind of tried following the scherzo form a bit by introducing some new material in the development section.